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    Quote Originally Posted by jaetea View Post
    Hello and welcome to the Forum.

    With a budget of $1,000, I can recommend a telescopes so large it will be very difficult to lift. How important is portability for you?

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    Thank you all for the kind words of welcome! The more threads I peruse, the more questions I have! We live in the Phoenix metro area, with a nice, solid concrete slab in the backyard as an intended home base. Not knowing how much ambient street light interferes with night stargazing, I can't answer the portability question. How important IS portability? Will it be necessary to pack up the 'scope and drive out into the desert away from city lights in order to see anything? If so, then having a compact, rugged unit makes sense.

    For those who have larger units, like the 8"-10" models and bigger, can they be left outside and covered most of the time, or do they need to be moved every time they're used? I'm not an invalid, so I can probably lift a 50-lb telescope OK. I'm more lazy than unable.

    I've also picked up on the need for accessories -- various lenses and filters -- that must be considered in my $1000 budget.

    Also, for someone who knows nothing about astronomy, is buying a GoTo 'scope worth the extra money, or is that an unnecessary extravagance?

    I'm sure I'll have more questions the more I search for answers ...

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    Hi N8RV, and welcome here to the Forum!

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    Default Re: I'm too old to be a "newbie" at anything ...

    Welcome N8RV

    Let's get something strait, age doesn't mean aaaaaaaaanything and I'll prove it

    Quote Originally Posted by combat48 View Post
    Hello and welcome! I'm 70 and still a newbie at lots of things! Just ask my Grandsons!!!
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    As you can see, Dave is 70 and like Dave I tooooooo am 70 (as of July 25, 2018 ) and still learning as well. For my birthday I bought my 6th scope, an Orion 102 Mak.....and counting so that should tell ya something.

    Ok, now that this "old" thing is out of the way, down to business I strongly suggest you forget about a scope for the immediate future and get a decent pair of binoculars until you become familiar and comfortable with the sky. I got a decent pair (7x50) before I bought my first scope (I now have 3 pairs) and have neeeeeever regretted getting it before a scope . They won't go to waste even after you get your first scope. I scout the sky before any scope goes out and at times only binos got out for quickie views because of weather. Also they'll help you find intended targets when you're out with a scope, mine certainly go

    To help you as well, download a program called Stellarium. It'll help you with the sky and is pretty well a staple with members here. You can get it here - https://stellarium.org/

    That's it for now and I hope this helps.
    Good luck and beeeee patient
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    Thanks, Abb. The binocs issue is one that I've posted in the Beginners' Forum. Obviously, as another newb posted recently, there's a LOT more to this hobby than I ever knew! Back to the drawing board …
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    Default Re: I'm too old to be a "newbie" at anything ...

    Abb is right on the money! You have MANY good options starting with a $1000 budget, but the binos are by FAR where you should begin, and you WILL keep coming back to them. I prefer to mount my binoculars, even my smaller ones go on my cheap ($10) monopod.

    While you're becoming familiar with the skies, consider things about any future scope like manual (find it yourself) or goto, how large of a scope do you want (can reasonably transport and set up), and what kind of things have piqued my interest in the binoculars.

    One very popular and quite capable scope is an 8" Dob ($400) but is totally manual and some (not many) find too large. It has many advantages, but a few drawbacks (as with every scope).
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    Well sir, there are telescopes for lunar viewing that won't hurt the wallet.
    You can get a lunar and planetary telescope.
    You can get a far out deep space telescope.
    It's hard to get an all in one.
    For lunar and planetary around $100, an 80mm will do. The planets will be dots. For some that's ok.
    Bigger? 130 reflector. I like newtonians. Call me biased. 3 pieces, tripod, mount, tube. Can grab some nebulas, split binary stars, catch a close Galaxy, view the moon and the planets are bigger.
    Now you are at $300-400
    In my I case I wanted more. I wasn't satisfied.
    For $1100 I got an 8 inch goto and some additional lenses, lunar filter (to dull the moon blinding brightness and to enhance the bands of Jupiter).
    Not kidding- it's a beast. It's rounder than my head , I meter long, so tall at latitude axis I need a step stool and I'll have to put my kid on a step ladder -with the tripod legs lowered.
    The tube is 20 lbs, the mount is 20 lbs, the tripod is 20 lbs, I have a car jumpstarter. At 20 lbs, I have a mat and a chair, I dont see traveling with it to a dark sight or star party as an option.
    My point is, like jT said, you have a budget for a fantastic telescope. A beast if you choose.
    You get more telescope if you get a Dobson. (Another reflector) it's a tube and a heavy base (keeps the tube from falling over and it rotates)
    Celestron Nexstar 8se Schmidt cassegrain is right at $1000. (Ask others on forum about that, sure someone can advise)
    You have options, sir.
    Reading our signatures at the bottom of our post, it seems we all have different brands and scopes.
    Hope this helps
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    Default Re: I'm too old to be a "newbie" at anything ...

    I too suggest a good pair of binoculars to start off with and then I suggest visiting an astronomy club and seeing if they have any loaner scopes you can try out, some libraries have them too. Arizona has a number of astronomy clubs, a list can be found at this link, Astronomy Clubs in Arizona | 2019 List | Go Astronomy, Getting a chance to look at a scope and try it out at night can help you to find what will work for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shabadoo View Post
    Well sir, there are telescopes for lunar viewing that won't hurt the wallet.
    You can get a lunar and planetary telescope.
    You can get a far out deep space telescope.
    It's hard to get an all in one.
    For lunar and planetary around $100, an 80mm will do. The planets will be dots. For some that's ok.
    Bigger? 130 reflector. I like newtonians. Call me biased. 3 pieces, tripod, mount, tube. Can grab some nebulas, split binary stars, catch a close Galaxy, view the moon and the planets are bigger.
    Now you are at $300-400
    In my I case I wanted more. I wasn't satisfied.
    For $1100 I got an 8 inch goto and some additional lenses, lunar filter (to dull the moon blinding brightness and to enhance the bands of Jupiter).
    Not kidding- it's a beast. It's rounder than my head , I meter long, so tall at latitude axis I need a step stool and I'll have to put my kid on a step ladder -with the tripod legs lowered.
    The tube is 20 lbs, the mount is 20 lbs, the tripod is 20 lbs, I have a car jumpstarter. At 20 lbs, I have a mat and a chair, I dont see traveling with it to a dark sight or star party as an option.
    My point is, like jT said, you have a budget for a fantastic telescope. A beast if you choose.
    You get more telescope if you get a Dobson. (Another reflector) it's a tube and a heavy base (keeps the tube from falling over and it rotates)
    Celestron Nexstar 8se Schmidt cassegrain is right at $1000. (Ask others on forum about that, sure someone can advise)
    You have options, sir.
    Reading our signatures at the bottom of our post, it seems we all have different brands and scopes.
    Hope this helps
    Jeff
    Thanks for the advice and direction, Jeff. The last comment about signatures reminds me of another hobby -- shooting. When I was teaching classes, folks would often ask me, "Which gun should I buy?" A serious question, but one with no right or wrong answer. I would ask them questions about what they'll use it for and make several recommendations, any of which would suit their needs just fine. But the little voice in my head -- the one I try really hard to not let out most of the time -- said, "What do you care? You're gonna buy more guns, so it really doesn't matter!"
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