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    Hello all!

    This is my first exciting foray into the astronomical world. I'd been meaning to buy a telescope for years, and now that my daughter is old enough to want to share in my quest, we bought a Dobosian Orion XT6i Intelliscope this Christmas.

    Problem is, I MUST be doing something wrong. Minus the fact that I haven't even gotten to the point where I've figured out how to use the object locator, I'm just trying to point and observe some basic objects. They don't however look like there magnified that much. I mean, it looks like what you'd see out of an ok set of binoculars, but not much more than that. I must be doing something wrong - I've attached and looked through both the 25 and 10x eyepieces and have been able to focus in on the moon and a star or two. But its really not all that impressive.

    Im a serious newbie at this, and I have read that the temperature can affect the outcome of a sky search, but Im a bit disappointed.

    Lastly - can anyone shed some light on 'Starry Night'? The software that came with the scope? Seems complicated.

    THANK YOU!!
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    Welcome to the forum and congrats on the new scope. The 10mm eyepiece should mag the the moon quite a bit. Stars will always be points of light. They are just too far away. I don't know about starry night, but you can download the free program stellarium. It is easy to use.

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    Mark,
    What objects did you look at?
    I'm quite familiar with Starry Night--What would you like to know?

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    Welcome to the forum. You should easily be able to see the craters on the moon, and Jupiter and its moons. PLUS the Orion Nebula (M42)--

    As mentioned above stars are always points of light regardless of the telescope. So-- can you see the craters on the moon?

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    Default Starry Night, Aligning the Orion XT6 and more....

    Hey all - thanks for the quick reply! So what do you guys do when you want to use your scope and its FREEZING out?

    Ok - here are questions back at you all:
    - When I plug in the 10mm eyepiece, it seems that all is blurry - regardless of my focus. Is this potentially a reaction of the temperature - moving the scope from indoors to outdoors on a cold night?
    - Has anyone been successful in syncing Starry Night to an Orion Intelliscope's object locator? Looks like I can do it with bluetooth, but confused a bit, because it doesn't appear that my device has wireless connectivity...
    - Starry Night software to PN PM: What is the best use of the software in connectivity with sky searching? Do you find an 'event' and then plug in that information into your object locator device? Or, do you use Starry Night just to give you an idea of 'what's up' on a given night that you're out and about?
    - Jupiter and the craters of the moon! Nope, haven't seen any of that. Hmmm. What could a newbie like me be doing wrong?
    - Big Star Alignment question to the group - my object locator wants me to align to 2 stars and has that circular sky map in the end of the manuel. Seems confusing to look at this map and match to the sky. Any ideas on how to simplify this process?

    Thanks all!
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    You telescope is more then big enough to give you excellent views....

    the 10 mm will yield 120x
    the 25 mm will yield 48x

    Both of which are far and away more powerful then any pair of binoculars and the scope should be able to deliver 180x even on nights that do not have very good seeing conditions...250x on really good nights

    Did you give the telescope a little time to cool down before you started using it... ???? Taking a scope out of a warm house out into the cold night air requires a little (30 minutes tops) time so everything is equalized...

    Ground damp? does the primary mirror look like it is fogging up from dew ???

    The COL system Orion uses is pretty easy to use BUT I've only used it a few times with my observation buddies Dob it really should not be a problem... BUT I can't walk you thru the process

    Stick with it and check your collimation it is simple to do and simple to dial in...

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    Hi Mark,
    My guess if you can't even focus on a phased moon & see many details is the scope is badly out of collimation.
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    Welcome to the forum!

    The other guys are already helping you with possibilities like your telescope being badly out of collimation, so I'm going to go in different direction.

    I always say “try the simple things first.” It is possible that you had dew problems, which make everything seem out of focus. Maybe? If dew is a problem, you will need to use a hair dryer (or the car heater, etc.) to dry off any dew that may be on the eyepiece or any of your optics and then try again. Never clear dew off by wiping it off in the field. Keep your eyepieces covered (and warm if possible) when you are not using them, which will also help reduce dew problems.

    Your post made me think that the map was confusing to you, so I am guessing that maybe you didn't align the scope using the correct stars. This would also be a simple problem to solve, so I recommend that you work on understanding how the alignment is done and how the star maps work to ensure you are aligning using the correct stars and following alignment procedure correctly. The alignment normally works better if you can move through it fairly quickly (but accurately), because the stars move relative to our position on the earth as time passes, so I'm guessing less time spent getting from one alignment star to the next will improve the accuracy of the alignment.

    Star charts work the opposite from normal maps. That is, they are made to look up at instead of down at. The way to get the map to line up with what is in the sky is to turn the map so the direction you are facing is at the bottom of the map and then raise up in front of yourself, even to the point of being over your head so you can see the map and the sky together in front of you.

    Here is a link to a web site that has free download-able maps (and also some good ones to purchase). The instructions for using the maps are printed in a circle around the edge of the map and there are a lot of tips on interesting things to see during the month printed on the second page.

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    The biggest dots are the brightest stars, so learn where the brightest stars are so you can use them to align your telescope.

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    Hi Mark! Welcome to the forum!

    Everyone here mentioned great things already, I'd just say that one of the biggest problems can be "cool down time". Your scope needs to be outside for a while, before stargazing. The mirror & tube needs time to cool to the outside temp's.

    That scope is certainly big enough to yield some awesome views of just about anything you can toss at it. And, it might be true that you need to collimate it, but I doubt it's WAY off. Although, it still might need a touch of adjustment.

    Other than that, you should be OK. Dobs are fairly simple scopes, and do a great job.
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