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    Default Seeking telescope enthusiasts for public service project



    I'm working a project which requires the capability to read the lettering on the fuselage of an aircraft flying at 30,000 feet. If you own or have access to a telescope which meets this requirement and would like to learn more about the details of the project please respond to this post.

    Although scientists claim that geo-engineering is only theoretical at this point and no real-world testing has yet been done, we have evidence suggesting otherwise. We also find it odd that members of congress claim total ignorance about the subject when we know they have been briefed about geo-engineering.

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    I really doubt it.

    You are talking 6 miles....if the plane is directly over the telescope. It's really hard to track objects at the zenith, and the writing you want to read is probably not on the bottom of the plane anyway. The registration number? Conditions would have to be absolutely perfect.
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    Thank you for your feedback WWPierre. I know little to nothing about telescopes and their capabilities so I appreciate the candid response. As I tend to be an optimist I here you saying that it may be possible under perfect conditions? And of course you're right that the registration number would not be located on the underside of the fuselage. Are you also saying that it would be impossible to view the tail section or the side of the fuselage?

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    What writing would you expect to see? I'm guessing it would be something like . . .

    "If you can read this, you're too close to our secret geo-engineering project!"
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    Even if someone here did have a scope good enough, the optics are the least of your worries.

    Building a tracking system that can locate and track objects in the sky, moving at random velocities and in random directions is a BIG undertaking. Since you seem like a conspiracy nut, I doubt you have very much funds, and if you had to come here to ask about it you probably wouldn't know where to begin even if you did.

    Sorry but your project is futile...

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    Since you are asking us on what is basically a science-oriented website, why not do the math? Since you know the size of the lettering you want to read, calculate the angular size of it when viewed at the intended distance. That will give you an idea of the magnification that you require. Then, you can read up on which scopes will provide that magnification and what limits the usable magnification of a telescope. Then, knowing the scope that you need, you can design a mount and tracking system for it that will follow aircraft with no advance warning.

    You are basically asking us to do your homework for you, something that is frowned upon here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwsandy View Post
    What writing would you expect to see? I'm guessing it would be something like . . .

    "If you can read this, you're too close to our secret geo-engineering project!"
    Tail number/registration number and/or serial number is what I'm looking for. They're the only visible means of uniquely identifying the aircraft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovian View Post
    Even if someone here did have a scope good enough, the optics are the least of your worries.

    Building a tracking system that can locate and track objects in the sky, moving at random velocities and in random directions is a BIG undertaking. Since you seem like a conspiracy nut, I doubt you have very much funds, and if you had to come here to ask about it you probably wouldn't know where to begin even if you did.

    Sorry but your project is futile...
    A conspiracy yes, but not by me. Reserve your judgment of me unless you can prove I'm wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithBC View Post
    Since you are asking us on what is basically a science-oriented website, why not do the math? Since you know the size of the lettering you want to read, calculate the angular size of it when viewed at the intended distance. That will give you an idea of the magnification that you require. Then, you can read up on which scopes will provide that magnification and what limits the usable magnification of a telescope. Then, knowing the scope that you need, you can design a mount and tracking system for it that will follow aircraft with no advance warning.

    You are basically asking us to do your homework for you, something that is frowned upon here.
    I'm not asking anyone to do my work for me. I'm simply hoping to get informed experienced opinions. Thank you for your advice.

    Tell me what you would do if you needed help with something you were totally unfamiliar with.

    By the way, for a forum that claims to be friendly and helpful I'm finding that I'm constantly defending myself when I've done nothing to deserve it.

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    I think Keith is maybe a bit hard on you. You gotta admit that he did draw you a detailed map, so is perhaps entitled to a snide remark.

    Say the plane had to be at a 45 degree angle in order to see markings on the vertical stabilizer, that would put it about 8 miles away. I am sure someone who can do the math in his head will be along soon to say what the smallest size of text you could see at that distance.

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