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    Default Messier 78?



    I've tried several times recently to observe M78 with my 120mm without luck. I'm pretty sure I'm on location, based on matching Sky Safari with what I'm seeing in the FOV. I've tried with and without a filter.

    Anybody have any luck with this thing from a red zone?
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    Default Re: Messier 78?

    Yes, I've seen it from my red zone location. It looks like a faint oval smudge with two stars in the center which resembles car headlights shining through fog. Since it is a reflection nebula it is not as bright as an emission nebula such as M42. I've observed it in each of my three instruments with the smallest being a six inch refractor. I've also seen it in binoculars from a dark sky location. The apparent magnitude is 8.3 and it is 1600 light years from earth. According to wikipedia it is visible in a 4" scope so yours is larger. In my opinion it is about as easy to see as the crab nebula, so averted vision definitely will help out. Good luck on finding it next time you are out.
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    Default Re: Messier 78?

    I have seen it from my red zone with the 8".
    As Micheal describes above, misty headlights.
    Be sure you are well dark adapted and try to catch it at or near culmination.

    Good luck!
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    Default Re: Messier 78?

    Definitely doable with ST120, but not sure about red zone. Since this is a reflection nebula filters don't help. From my yellow/orange zone I observed it with ST120 and Luminos 7mm EP (90x): "bright little fuzzy patch with 2 stars embedded, invisible with OIII filter"
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    Default Re: Messier 78?

    I can barley make out the target with a stretched out 10 min HA image on a 12'' f4 lol,very faint target and lp just destroys it, a little exaggerated but it's almost about right
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    Default Re: Messier 78?

    I have seen it in the past from light polluted suburban skies with a 6" f7. It's no Orion nebula. Faint but not difficult to see the brighter inner portion.
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    Default Re: Messier 78?

    Just saw it tonight if you go from the left side star of the belt to betlegues while being a hair to the left you will see it if you have a telrad I'd say it's about 5-6 star lengths up. In my 12" and dark skies it wasn't bright. But easily seeable.
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    Default Re: Messier 78?

    I have 8192-step encoders on my mount and I'm now running a Nexus II and SS Plus, so that should locate it more accurately than my Wixey. (Gotta love the user-defined FOV circles.)

    Unfortunately Orion is no longer favorably placed for home observing. I'll give it anther try if the weather ever decides to let me get out to my darker site before May.
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    Awww that's sad.. I don't know what I'm gonna do when I can't see Orion anymore ): . It is always the first place I look because I can see so much in it.
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    Default Re: Messier 78?

    LOL. Reminded me of Clemenza in "The Godfather" - "Oh, Mikey, I lovva you so much. If I can't see you, I'ma gonna die!"
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