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    Default What camera to buy?



    Hi folks, a very open question here as I don't know a huge amount about astro-photography yet. I am looking for a one off 'spend the money now' sort job so that I'm not immediately looking for an upgrade. I do like deep space objects like nebula's etc but also hoping to shoot the moon and planets too if possible! Will consider anything in the region of £500 - £1500 so please fire away with ideas as to what I should be looking at.
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    Default Re: What camera to buy?

    I would be looking at one of the ZWO CMOS cameras. Some of the newer releases have really increased their ability to do both planetary and DSO imaging. You are aware, I assume, that your scope is not ideal for either type of imaging. The camera will work with your scope, you likely will have multiple problems with a DSLR, but you will need more focal length for good planetary imaging. You can do quick exposure DSO imaging with your current equipment, but will need a GEM for longer exposure.
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    Default Re: What camera to buy?

    What car should I buy?

    Just because a 4x4 may suit my neighbours does not mean I want anything other than a 2 door sports

    Therefore personal choice and there isn't a one size fits all

    I have just modded a £250 Celestron nexImage 5 by removing the IR blocking filter to shoot the Sun, though as we all know a monochrome camera is better, then again some people prefer single shot colour or 2.1MP where as some the latest 16Mp and more.

    NO easy answer, horses for courses. I'm getting this in Monochrome for imaging Moon https://www.widescreen-centre.co.uk/...ed-cmos-camera

    I wanted a good telescope to view Moon and Planets and perhaps DSO, ended up with a SC and Refractor, also I would re consider placing a £1,500 camera on a £300 scope with a flimsy mount, sorry, slightest breeze, knock

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    Default Re: What camera to buy?

    For the Moon and planets, your alt-az mount will be fine, but you will find your 650mm focal length inadequate. You will need to use a barlow for sure, especially on the planets, and even then your results will be underwhelming.

    To answer your question, ZWO makes a good line of planetary cameras. You will want to choose one with small pixels and a corresponding high pixel density.

    There are online calculators to figure out image scale in arcseconds per pixel, based on your scope and the camera parameters. You should use these with the data for any prospective purchase to calculate how many pixels wide Jupiter or Saturn will be.

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    Default Re: What camera to buy?

    For a single do it all camera I'd look at a ZWO 174MC or MM.

    https://astronomy-imaging-camera.com...-3-0/asi174mm/
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    Default Re: What camera to buy?

    For a single do it all camera I'd look at a ZWO 174MC or MM. For Planetary work I have found the minimum for the best results is at least an 8" SCT and a 2x-3x Barlow on a good tracking GEM style mount. Look at the Atlas Pro series by Orion or the Skywatcher equivalent.

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    Default Re: What camera to buy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Leveye View Post
    For a single do it all camera I'd look at a ZWO 174MC or MM.

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    Why ???

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    Default Re: What camera to buy?

    Quote Originally Posted by JR1 View Post
    Why ???
    Why not? Read the OPs original question and the specs on the camera.
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    Default Re: What camera to buy?

    I would agree that a ZWO camera would be a good fit. They'll come to focus in the 130SLT (the focus point is almost all the way in). I put mine in the 2" adapter as it gives slightly more in-focus. The mount isn't really suitable for AP but you can do video astronomy with it. You'll want a low read noise camera so you can keep your exposures short. I've done some video astronomy with my 130SLT using a ZWO ASI224MC. It's a great planetary camera and works well for short exposure DSO shots with stacking. The ASI224MC is pretty cheap as well so the cost to get started is pretty low. So if you find it's not for you, you can sell it without too much of a loss. Since it's an Alt-Az mount, you'll get edge artifacts due to field rotation. I'd also recommend the Orion Accufocus and a Bahtinov mask. The stock focuser is difficult to dial in.

    Here are some shots I've done with the 130SLT (various cameras and some are on the AVX mount). They'll never win any awards for quality but for showing friends and family, it's great. And you can watch it near live.
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    Default Re: What camera to buy?

    Thanks for the replies folks, firstly an apology, I should update my equipment, I am only using the original ota I've upgraded the mount to a sky watcher AZ-EQ6 GT and have an orion starshoot autoguider pro with 60mm refractor for guiding. The ota will be the last thing to upgrade as I want all the other necessaries first so I know what weight to allow for the ota.
    As for cameras I run a 27inch screen at 2560 x 1440 resolution so a camera that would will that sort of screen would be great.
    Is ccd better than cmos and is it worth going for peltier active cooling? Also do you ultimately get better images with a mono and narrow band filters than with a single shot colour?
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