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    Quote Originally Posted by terrynak View Post
    Re: Omegon - good to know, thanks.

    Nice to have a lot of scopes, as long as they are housed in their own carrying cases/bags so they don't take up much space and are easily transportable. All my scopes are stored in this way (except my largest one at the moment).
    The cases are really important for me as I'm partially paralysed in my right arm and hand. It's the only way I can effectively move the bloody things lol.



    Astroshop market a lot of other brands under the Omegon name. However, they are usually expensive in comparison. I bought this Barlow three or four years ago for around £80. TV 2x Barlows weren't that much more at the time. I didn't realise that the Barlow is actually made by Barsta. I didn't see any in the UK until recently and they were marketed as BST for under 50 quid! I paid 40 quid more for it to have Omegon written on the side lol.
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    Default Re: We Three Mak’s of Orient Are

    Quote Originally Posted by John Baars View Post
    Very nice thread SB!
    It seems that I am not the only one who ever bought a "lemon" for a telescope.
    I have two Maks. A 140mm OMC, bought in 2000, optically rather good. And a Skywatcher 102mm bought secondhand in 2013, optically somewhat less good than the OMC. But, as always, I use the smaller one far more often than the bigger one. Which means that the smaller 102 is my better friend of the two. I have seen several optical testpictures of the small 102mm Skywatchers. Almost all seem rather satisfying.
    https://www.teleskop-spezialisten.de...:::73_119.html
    Thanks for showing us your Maksutovs.
    Thanks John. I bought my 102mm Mak because I could pick it up with one hand, something that I couldn't do with my 130mm Newtonian. I almost bought a 127mm Mak first, but I don't think I could have handled it then. Over the past couple of years I have made some progress in physiotherapy and I'm getting much better at manipulating the 127mm. I agonised between the 90mm Orion and the lemon for quite a while, basically convinced that as they were the same price, more or less, they would have similar performance. Live and learn, right? lol

    The 90mm Orion has certainly been worth it. I've seen a Martian polar cap with it and it's excellent for quick lunar observing. Not bad for a telescope that can almost fit into a coat pocket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Quixote View Post
    I have enjoyed your thread SB. I love seeing your Toys!
    Thank you.
    Thanks and you're welcome. I can't play with my toys outside much at the moment, so it's nice to show them off a bit lol.
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    Default Re: We Three Mak’s of Orient Are

    Nice maks. I'm actually thinking of getting one to sit on the other side of my Twilight II from my 152mm scope. I've never used one and it might be kind of a cool experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by helicon64 View Post
    Nice maks. I'm actually thinking of getting one to sit on the other side of my Twilight II from my 152mm scope. I've never used one and it might be kind of a cool experience.
    Thanks. Mak's have their peculiarities, as with everything there are pros and cons. First off, they are usually pretty slow. The fastest I have is the 127mm at f/11.8, the slowest is the 90mm at f/13.8. As a consequence the field of view is narrow, so they aren't too hot for rich field, but for high magnification they are difficult to match. Mine have very good contrast, no discernible CA and are quite forgiving of eyepieces and diagonals. They excel as compact and portable lunar/planetary scopes.
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    Although I use my C8 & ES102 a lot more, I still have my USA C90 rubberized I bought in 1996. I use 1 1/4 LAR for 1 1/4 EP's/diagonal and always let it cool. It has been to Mexico, the Big Island, and lots of other places. It is also a great tool in Yellowstone. It is a little hunk @ 5 pounds ready to use. It's my while light solar scope and that is where I use it the most now. My SkyMaster 20 x 80's and monopod are my "just throw it in, just in case" for travel.
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    Very nice collection Shorty! I love a nice Mak! My 180 has become my favorite friend when aiming for double/multi's, globs, PN's, planets and lunar. I've been thinking of adding a 102+ AZ-gti for a lightweight companion.

    I'm familiar with the Omegon brand, but most things I've heard before were not that 'stellar'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gx8ES102 View Post
    Although I use my C8 & ES102 a lot more, I still have my USA C90 rubberized I bought in 1996. I use 1 1/4 LAR for 1 1/4 EP's/diagonal and always let it cool. It has been to Mexico, the Big Island, and lots of other places. It is also a great tool in Yellowstone. It is a little hunk @ 5 pounds ready to use. It's my while light solar scope and that is where I use it the most now. My SkyMaster 20 x 80's and monopod are my "just throw it in, just in case" for travel.
    It's surprising what you can see with a 90mm Mak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderwerX View Post
    Very nice collection Shorty! I love a nice Mak! My 180 has become my favorite friend when aiming for double/multi's, globs, PN's, planets and lunar. I've been thinking of adding a 102+ AZ-gti for a lightweight companion.

    I'm familiar with the Omegon brand, but most things I've heard before were not that 'stellar'.
    Thanks. The 102mm is quite portable, there is a definite increase in size and weight with the 127mm.



    I turned the dovetail around 180º on my 102 SkyMax so the little dimples mated up with the screw on the Vixen Porta and AZ5. I also added a Rigel, although the RACI in this position is quite usable.

    Omegon is just a name. AFAIK Astroshop don't manufacture anything and everything that has Omegon written on it is actually made by someone else, including Barsta (BST) and GSO.

    I have no idea who the OEM is of the Omegon MightyMak/Kasai Pico. It's been rumoured that they are Japanese, but I honestly don't know. I certainly wouldn't recommend them.
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    Default Re: We Three Mak’s of Orient Are

    Thanks for this Shorty! I had an early ETX90 (in fact the first telescope I ever bought, as an adjunct to my home-made 10" dob), and was amazed at the optics (the mechanics: not so good!!!). Great contrast and textbook images: it even held its own in a head-to-head with a Questar on a night when I could see structure inside the GRS on Jupiter. The 90mm Mak is not to be despised as a DSO scope either due to its great contrast. The first look I ever had through it was at the Swan/Omega nebula, and it blew me away.

    Sadly I sold it to "downsize" my collection. However, I now have more scopes than I had then, including an ETX125 which I picked up for a very good price... This too has excellent optics, let down a bit by the mechanics of the mount (although it is a quantum jump above the early ETX with its tiny plastic gear cog!). I have thought about getting a replacement back for it (eg: Customize your Meade ETX-125 or ETX-90 with a Wegat Optical Adapter Kit ) and mounting it on something more solid, but as I only use it for outreach at present that project has gone on the back-burner.

    Maks are slow to be sure, but I think they are under-rated, particularly in terms of their DSO and planetary abilities. And a focal reducer can give them a much better FOV too.

    Enjoy your collection, and I hope that your arm continues to respond to treatment.

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