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    Question Dealing with Cumbersome Monstrosities



    I have the Orion Paragon-Plus Binocular Mount with Tripod which I will be wanting to use often. Currently the tripod and mount are separated. It stores without taking up a lot of space and can be moved easily this way. The problem is how the tripod and mount go together. It does not seem like something that is meant to taken apart and put back together repeatedly. So when I put it together the next time I'm thinking of leaving it that way which will turn it into a cumbersome monstrosity for me to store, transport, and set up. I figure that most of you might have similar problems and could have some useful advice. I reside in a sardine can size apartment and don't really have the space to leave it stored assembled with legs spread. Thinking maybe legs together laying down somewhere or leaning in a corner. Transporting might be rough on my cart. Setting it up wont be as easy with it together.
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    Default Re: Dealing with Cumbersome Monstrosities

    I have the same problem with my 20x80s on the parallelogram mount. I usually store the whole thing assembled in a corner, against a wall. I filly collapse the legs, and fold them partially, but not completely inwards. I leave just enough of a base for the tripod to not tip easily. The parallelogram rests against the wall. It is not totally convenient, but it is mostly out of the way.

    Mine is the Orion tripod/parallelogram setup. I agree with you that it is not designed for easy assembly and disassembly. It should have had some kind of quick disconnect. There are photographic quick-release plates: perhaps there is one that will fit ans that is heavy-duty enough to hold the parallelogram securely. I don't know.
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    Default Re: Dealing with Cumbersome Monstrosities

    Quote Originally Posted by KathyNS View Post
    Mine is the Orion tripod/parallelogram setup.
    Is yours the one they call the Monster? https://www.telescope.com/Orion/Bino...5/p/114271.uts
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    Default Re: Dealing with Cumbersome Monstrosities

    Hello Seer,

    the parallelos are plainly monstreuse, that's why I don't have them.

    If you can hold a rifle, what I am tempted to suppose that you can,
    then a shoulder pod is enough, see the attached pic.
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    Default Re: Dealing with Cumbersome Monstrosities

    I have the lighter weight one from Orion and have some experience with the heavier weight one from Orion as well. This is another reason why I like the Farpoint Parallel mount that Oberwerk sells. It has a secure quick release system that attaches to a tripod head. If I mount two pair of binoculars simultaneously, I have to put a lighter pair on the Orion mount (usually the 15x70s), but it doesn't get used often. I don't like to take it apart and it is a hassle to load and move around.
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    Default Re: Dealing with Cumbersome Monstrosities

    Quote Originally Posted by j.gardavsky View Post
    Hello Seer,

    the parallelos are plainly monstreuse, that's why I don't have them.

    If you can hold a rifle, what I am tempted to suppose that you can,
    then a shoulder pod is enough, see the attached pic.
    http://www.astronomyforum.net/member...-novoflex.html

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    I already have one of these https://www.amazon.com/Stedi-Stock-S...s%2C159&sr=8-1
    I have a monopod with a ball joint to use with it. I use it with a very cheap spotting scope. I didn't even think about using it with binoculars.
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    Default Re: Dealing with Cumbersome Monstrosities

    Check it out JG?
    https://astronomyconnect.com/forums/...i-stock-2.367/
    So far it seems like it would work. I don't think it would get the whole way to the zenith. With binoculars its more of a chest brace then a shoulder stock.
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    Default Re: Dealing with Cumbersome Monstrosities

    Interesting but I would be a bit cautious taking that outside
    The police may come visiting quickly.

    I am not sure how well it would be for looking higher up and may get a bit cumbersome after a while.
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    Default Re: Dealing with Cumbersome Monstrosities

    Hello Seer,

    it may work.
    The Novoflex, as anything made in Germany, is expensive. I have it just because it has been in a home auction for 10 EUR.
    As the 15x85 BA8 binos put 4.5kg on the scales, it is quite a load for my shoulder when viewing towards zenith.
    I used to have a cheaper shoulder pod from Cullmann, but it has been for much smaller payload.

    When working on difficult objects requiring longer observing times, I take the classic Linhof tripod with the central
    height adjustable column, and tilt it as a "bipod" (monopod with 2 legs) against my chest.

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    Default Re: Dealing with Cumbersome Monstrosities

    I have 2 different monopods and a few tripods. My arsenal of things to try and to use has really grown.
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