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    Default M48 & m50



    So last night with wind around 15 mph, I decided not a good time for EAA. Around 11 I went to the only window I see the the sky (it's about a 15-20 degree wide hole in the trees down to about -16 south (can see Sirius). With my 20 x 80's on my mono pod with it's fluid head and feet - I use the shoulder brace against the window from and have the handle front facing so I can brace it against the window. Since I've never pointed my scope in this area I am seeing quite a few things from home that I've never seen before in my Bortle 6 skies, last night it was M48 & M50. I've lived in my house for 15 years and never once thought looking out this specific window.



    M50 - Still pretty Dim in the 80's but south & north (I think) were two linear groups of stars that seemed to frame the main part. Spent the better part of the full 30 minutes or so I could see it and could see it nicely with averted vision.



    M48 - Really a large cluster and so easy to find from Polycon. Again only the brightest stars showing well but averted bring so much more of the cluster into view. Again watched it the full time trying to see patterns. For the central line of stars in this cluster is fascinating, With averted vision while see more stars it was not as rewarding to me as directly seeing the triangles and doubles of the brighter stars.



    When I really stared using this binoc's I never had been excited/intrigued by open clusters, and with EAA I thought maybe I would not be using my 20 x 80's much. How wrong I was - last night was close to 2 hours



    Putting a small fluid head on the monopod has given me a smooth way to raise and lower elevation and the ability to rotate the monopod with its fluid feet while the shoulder brace (free rotation) is held firmly against the window frame means I can view for long periods of time with a rock steady view.



    Since I am looking through a glass window often at an angle I don't see a reason to get a better pair of the 20 x 80's now (went through 3 pairs to get these) which are not as good as my 10 x 50's but you wouldn't expect a $100 pair to match a 350-400 pair of binocs but the resolution, brightness, and magnification over the 10 x 50 is compelling. But the enjoyment level is very high, I just can believe that didn't thing about this many years ago.



    Next time I have my ES102 out, I am going to find a cluster and see how a brightness comparison is between the 20 x 80's and it.
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    Default Re: M48 & m50

    Sounds like a good time to me. I always enjoy reading others reports, but even more so now, after being in the clouds for so long. Thank you.

    How do you like your ES 102? I'm undecided between it and the Orion ST 120 when finances will allow it.
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    Default Re: M48 & m50

    This is a very nice Bino outing indeed.
    It realy is amazing what we can see with "opera glasses". :-)
    I have several telescooes scopes, and a case full of EP, but I use my binos in every outing.
    Thank you gx for this pleasing account.
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    Default Re: M48 & m50

    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightRambler View Post
    Sounds like a good time to me. I always enjoy reading others reports, but even more so now, after being in the clouds for so long. Thank you.

    How do you like your ES 102? I'm undecided between it and the Orion ST 120 when finances will allow it.
    I bought an ST120 18 months when I got back into the hobby. I really like it. Decent on DSOs in heavy LP, in-your-face views under dark skies, and light enough for Grab-n-go. Finally spent some time observing the moon last night and I was happy with the image quality up to 100x.
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    Default Re: M48 & m50

    Quote Originally Posted by jcj380 View Post
    I bought an ST120 18 months when I got back into the hobby. I really like it. Decent on DSOs in heavy LP, in-your-face views under dark skies, and light enough for Grab-n-go. Finally spent some time observing the moon last night and I was happy with the image quality up to 100x.
    Thank you. The way you describe the scope is exactly what I'm looking for. I'm under nice dark skies, with DSO's being my primary interest, I like the idea of a smaller grab-n-go option and I realize I probably won't get the planetary views that I would with longer f ratio scopes, but I have other scopes for planetary viewing. Though It's nice to know that the views are decent on the moon/planets at higher power. I assume there's come CA when viewing bright objects like the Moon and Jupiter, but I expect that and I'm not really bothered by it up to a point, anyway.

    The ST 120 sounds like exactly what I'm looking for. Thank you very much for the information, I really appreciate it.
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    Default Re: M48 & m50

    Planetary viewing is not good with my 120. Lunar yes, Mars for example no. (I have a C8 in storage if I ever go planetary.) There's some CA on bright stars, but it doesn't bother me.

    It's not going to give you 14-in Dob views of 10th mag galaxies, but it does ok by me. You can Google Orion ST120 for reviews and discussions on various forums.
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    Default Re: M48 & m50

    I won't ask any more from it than an occasional look the planets, while observing nebulae, clusters etc, so from what you've told me about your scope and what I read online, I think it would work well for me. Thanks again for your input, you've been a big help.
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