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    I didn't realize how nice binoculars could be until I bought these. SO convenient for star hopping and just in general portability.
    I don't think there's much to do with binoculars other than grab and go but if anyone has some tips let me know, Not looking to use a tripod but I do have an adapter that came with it free.
    Just a post to appreciate binoculars.. pretty sure this is an older model that's discontinued but whatever I love em they worked great

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    Default Re: Bought a pair of WO 7x50 ED binoculars..

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    I don't think there's much to do with binoculars other than grab and go but if anyone has some tips let me know, Not looking to use a tripod but I do have an adapter
    You've got some more pleasant surprises coming, they are for more than just grab-n-go. If that adapter is METAL that's good, if not, get one from ebay for about $10. Fasten the adapter to the end of an old wooden mop/broom handle to use as a cheap monopod (mine was free as it came straight from a rubbish pile). This will greatly stabilize the binos and significantly increase what you can see with them, and doubles as a good walking stick. I took this, what at first sounded like odd advice, from a member (thanks John) and now I have 6 sets of binoculars and three mounts. Grab-n-go ONLY!! Not by a LONG shot!
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    Default Re: Bought a pair of WO 7x50 ED binoculars..

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozman13 View Post
    You've got some more pleasant surprises coming, they are for more than just grab-n-go. If that adapter is METAL that's good, if not, get one from ebay for about $10. Fasten the adapter to the end of an old wooden mop/broom handle to use as a cheap monopod (mine was free as it came straight from a rubbish pile). This will greatly stabilize the binos and significantly increase what you can see with them, and doubles as a good walking stick. I took this, what at first sounded like odd advice, from a member (thanks John) and now I have 6 sets of binoculars and three mounts. Grab-n-go ONLY!! Not by a LONG shot!
    Well the adapter is metal so that's good, however that sounds interesting I'll see if I can attempt it. The only issue there may be with that is, (at least for these binos) is that they're very heavy. I think they're about 3.5 lbs which is good since it feels very quality but just might make it harder for that.

    I'll try looking into some mono-pods maybe too..
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    Default Re: Bought a pair of WO 7x50 ED binoculars..

    Congrats 7x50 are my favorite at the moment , I dont have great ones but they work well for me
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    Default Re: Bought a pair of WO 7x50 ED binoculars..

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    Well the adapter is metal so that's good, however that sounds interesting I'll see if I can attempt it. The only issue there may be with that is, (at least for these binos) is that they're very heavy. I think they're about 3.5 lbs which is good since it feels very quality but just might make it harder for that.

    I'll try looking into some mono-pods maybe too..
    The heavier the weight of the binos (to a point, a monopod can only hold so much) the more advantage you will see from using a monopod vs. hand held. I see significant improvement with my 15x70s which are heavier than your 7x50s using a monopod vs. hand holding. In fact, I don't even attempt to hand hold the 15x70s although that is what I originally bought them for. Once I put them on a stick everything changed.
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    Default Re: Bought a pair of WO 7x50 ED binoculars..

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozman13 View Post
    The heavier the weight of the binos (to a point, a monopod can only hold so much) the more advantage you will see from using a monopod vs. hand held. I see significant improvement with my 15x70s which are heavier than your 7x50s using a monopod vs. hand holding. In fact, I don't even attempt to hand hold the 15x70s although that is what I originally bought them for. Once I put them on a stick everything changed.
    Oh wow. Alright I'll definitely give this a try, thank you!
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    Default Re: Bought a pair of WO 7x50 ED binoculars..

    Congrats on the new binos!

    I guess most people already know this, but for those who came in late, they are manufactured by Kunming Optical, and are their top-of-the-line MS (formerly "BA8") series (see: MS binoculars ). Other companies, like Orion (see: https://www.telescope.com/Orion-Reso...ars/p/9543.uts ) have re-badged them too.

    I believe these MS binos were based originally on the Japanese Fujinon's (now Fujinon 7X50 FMTR-SX), which are probably the "gold standard" for porro prism binos nowadays. They certainly give the Fujinons a run for their money.

    The monopod is a great idea!

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    Default Re: Bought a pair of WO 7x50 ED binoculars..

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    Congrats on the new binos!

    I guess most people already know this, but for those who came in late, they are manufactured by Kunming Optical, and are their top-of-the-line MS (formerly "BA8") series (see: MS binoculars ). Other companies, like Orion (see: https://www.telescope.com/Orion-Reso...ars/p/9543.uts ) have re-badged them too.

    I believe these MS binos were based originally on the Japanese Fujinon's (now Fujinon 7X50 FMTR-SX), which are probably the "gold standard" for porro prism binos nowadays. They certainly give the Fujinons a run for their money.

    The monopod is a great idea!

    All the best,

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    Yes!

    The Kunming Optical BA8 binoculars can be found under wildly different brand names.
    These binoculars are exporetd in batches to the vendors with the vendor's brand names through another company something like Binoculars China. So, there is not a direct contact to Kunming, like the QC, as the companies in the Kunming area probably also make the military optics.

    The BA8 oiptics design differs significantly from the Fujinons.
    The first readily recognizable difference is the shorter eye relief of the Fiujinons, indicating different design of the eyepieces.
    The second difference is the residual lateral CA, which can be found on the 16x70 Fujinons, but is much smaller in the BA8 series. This may be due to the BAK-4 phosphate prisms in the BA8 binoculars, against the classic hard crown BaK-4 prisms in the Fujinons.
    The third difference is the lower transmissivity (2% difference) of the BA8 binoculars, if compared with the Fujinons. This difference may be due to the posphate prisms with the lower refractive index.

    The optics concept and the performance of the Fujinons reminds that of the old Carl Zeiss West law enforcement (not military) binoculars, upscaled to the 70mm aperture. An upgrade to the discontinued Carl Zeiss West binoculars are the Docter binoculars, I have had in my hands, but never tested under the night skies.

    A real benchmark in the 70mm class binoculars are not the Fujinons but the discontinued Nikon Astroluxe binos, and especially their high magnification versions.

    The difference of the 10x70 Nikon Astroluxe against the BA8 is under the night skies small. Under the daylight, my 10x70 Nikons Astroluxe offer higher contrast and come somehow better in the exact focus. So, the spherical aberration may be better corrected in the eyepieces of the Nikons.

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    Default Re: Bought a pair of WO 7x50 ED binoculars..

    Thanks for the info JG. Any time you want to swap your Nikon 10x70's for my Carton 11x80's let me know and I am sure we could arrange something!

    All the best,

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