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    Default Help choose skymaster 15x70 vs nikon aculon 10x50



    Hi everyone,

    I've been in these hobby for the last 6 months.
    I love to see and imaging DSO but since I'm living in heavy polluted sky, finding DSO manually is really a challenge for me.
    I usually take off my 6x30 finderscope and using it handhold to find objects. After i find it then i put back to the telescope to start searching with the telescope.
    On that case, i feel that i need more powerful and versatile tool : binocular.

    Option for binocular is not much here, i'm considering Celestron skymaster 15x70 or Nikon Aculon 10x50 or Nikon Action extreme 12x50.
    I know that the skymaster is huge therefore i cannot handhold for long period, but in my case, I'm not going to use it for long time...just to help me finding objects, and i'm thinking if it can replace the telescope when i'm travelling somewhere.
    Which one is better in my case?

    Any feedback are wellcome...
    thanks
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    Default Re: Help choose skymaster 15x70 vs nikon aculon 10x50

    The 15x70 are quite large/ heavy and really need a mount to be used.
    I would lean towards the Nikon for the better build quality.
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    Default Re: Help choose skymaster 15x70 vs nikon aculon 10x50

    Hello Artob,

    the Nikon Action binoculars are a good choice, but you may also consider the Pentax binoculars, as discussed in
    Binoculars for around the £100 mark? .. Found these...
    Otherwise, 10x50 (5mm exit pupil) are well suited under the clear dark skies.
    When you have some light pollution, then the 12x50 (4mm exit pupil) with their smaller exit pupil are better suited.

    Best,

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    Default Re: Help choose skymaster 15x70 vs nikon aculon 10x50

    Does 15x70 will be too heavy for short period handheld?
    Is there any problems for the skymaster 15x70 in terms of build quality?
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    Default Re: Help choose skymaster 15x70 vs nikon aculon 10x50

    Some folks have experienced collimation problems with the skymasters out of the box. I didn't but it is still something that must be considered, even though they are very economically priced.

    For this reason some of the other brands are rated higher.
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    Default Re: Help choose skymaster 15x70 vs nikon aculon 10x50

    Quote Originally Posted by artob99 View Post
    Does 15x70 will be too heavy for short period handheld?
    Is there any problems for the skymaster 15x70 in terms of build quality?
    I have them. They need a tripod. Reading this thread I wish I had Nikon or Pentax....
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    Default Re: Help choose skymaster 15x70 vs nikon aculon 10x50

    So, I actually wanted to test something before I chimed in on this, so I could make sure I knew what I was talking about. I have the 15x70 Skymasters also. Can they be handheld for short periods? Depends on who's doing the holding. I do this often, however they do not stay steady for long.

    Remarkable steadiness can be achieved by prudent use of an inexpensive monopod by attaching one to the binoculars using the supplied adapter, and taking a wide grip on it. Like holding an axe, more or less. I am able to get decent steady observations using this method, plus the monopod gives you other options - you can rest it on your knee when seated, or on the ground, it actually has marvelous utility.

    Now, that being said, this method I use for observing at length which is what I bought and use the Skymasters for. For the use you are looking for, spotting in conjunction with using your telescope, I use another pair (regular old 10x42 Bushnell) that are FAR more suited for this task. Super light, they can be used in one hand to find my place in the stars quickly to aid my star-hopping with the dobsonian. For this use, I think you will find the Skymasters too large and too clumsy. I think a lighter, more compact build will serve you better.

    I should also note that this:
    Quote Originally Posted by helicon64 View Post
    Some folks have experienced collimation problems with the skymasters out of the box. I didn't but it is still something that must be considered, even though they are very economically priced.
    is a valid concern. My pair certainly came out of collimation, which I was able to correct myself with some advice from Ozman. I suppose knowing how to correct binocular collimation is a useful skill, that might save you headache down the road. One should not expect new binoculars to arrive out of alignment though.
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    Default Re: Help choose skymaster 15x70 vs nikon aculon 10x50

    Thanks for all advise...
    I almost got myself in trouble by buying skymaster 15x70.
    I can't find pentax on local store. FOr the nikon , which one is better ; Aculon 10x50 or 12x50?
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    Default Re: Help choose skymaster 15x70 vs nikon aculon 10x50

    Quote Originally Posted by artob99 View Post
    Thanks for all advise...
    I almost got myself in trouble by buying skymaster 15x70.
    I can't find pentax on local store. FOr the nikon , which one is better ; Aculon 10x50 or 12x50?
    Hello Artob,

    you can order the Pentax binoculars on internet directly from Japan, for 1/2 price plus your country customs and VAT. The payment is with credit card.
    As your city may suffer from quite a bit of light pollution, the 12x50 will be better suited.
    A link for reference: https://www.amazon.com/Pentax-SP-12x...t_sims?ie=UTF8 , you must include: "ship to Indonesia", or do a similar search for Japan + shipment.

    Best,

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    Default Re: Help choose skymaster 15x70 vs nikon aculon 10x50

    Quote Originally Posted by j.gardavsky View Post
    Hello Artob,

    you can order the Pentax binoculars on internet directly from Japan, for 1/2 price plus your country customs and VAT. The payment is with credit card.
    As your city may suffer from quite a bit of light pollution, the 12x50 will be better suited.
    A link for reference: https://www.amazon.com/Pentax-SP-12x...t_sims?ie=UTF8 , you must include: "ship to Indonesia", or do a similar search for Japan + shipment.

    Best,

    JG
    Thanks JG, i have bought lots of things from ebay and other online store in HK, China and US.
    It's just that waiting time feels like endless...
    Using expedited shipping like DHL or fedex had huge hidden cost...
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