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    Default Orion ShoreView 10x42 ?



    Hello all!

    I wonder if any of you have tried Orion Shoreview 10x42 for astronomy?

    ShoreView 10x42 Waterproof Binoculars | Orion Telescopes & Binoculars

    I tried them at my local astronomy shop and they look very good, (at least to me, Im not a very picky or demanding person). Of course, when I tried them it was just pointing at the street, buildings, people walking, cars, you know, just a general urban landscape, on a sunny bright day. They are comfortable and feel like they are quality stuff.

    You can read they come with:
    Bak4,
    FOV=5.6°
    Eye Relief=14.0 mm (I don't wear glasses)
    Exit Pupil=4.2mm (which I loved because they feel comfortable as Im used to general purpose inexpensive binoculars that usually come with about 2mm exit pupil)

    Well, any comments on this pair as to use for astronomy will be welcome. Im more interested in looking at planets, Im not expecting to find a nebula with these, just planets, the moon, bring stars closer, you know, casual observation, nothing really demanding and I live in a very light polluted city..


    Ok, just a side note, when I visited that store I was there specifically to buy a pair of inexpensive binoculars I wanted for a concert (not for astronomy): Meade TravelView™ Binoculars - 10x25:

    TravelView

    I can comment that these are great (at least for the price), clear and sharp and show a 5.8° FOV

    At the time I was a bit in a hurry, but later at home I checked the specs and they say they are

    "Fully multi-coated, BaK-4 prisms with Phase Coated optics provide bright, detailed, high-resolution images.
    Waterproof, nitrogen purged, rugged rubber armored construction protects against the elements." as you can read at the page. Funny, such specs are not shown in the box nor in the instruction manual, just at the web page!

    I wonder if such specifications are true for an inexpensive binocular? It seems they share some specs with the more expensive Orion Shoreview I mentioned above. I can say the views on these Meade are the best for any inexpensive 10x25 I have tried before and I was amazed at how good they perform. (I have not tried them for astronomic views as the aperture is so small plus I have had very cloudy nights since then)

    But, well, just wanted to share this experience, and wonder if binocular makers will dare to write incorrect specs for their products?

    Thanks!

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    Default Re: Orion ShoreView 10x42 ?

    I haven't tried these particular binos, but the specs look good, and a 4.2mm exit pupil works well for the general astro viewing you describe. This is very similar to my 10.5x45 Vanguard Endeavours: and I have had some great views with them. They have been great for wide-field views, comets, big nebulae/galaxies like Andromeda, the LMC and SMC, Eta Carina, M42, and even Barnard's loop (from dark skies of course!), and do a good job on the brighter globulars and open clusters like the Pleiades.

    Planets are way too small to see any detail with 10x binos, although you will see the line-up of the moons of Jupiter when they are well away from the planet, maybe the crescent of Venus (at present) and a slightly elongated "blob" that is Saturn. The moon will be wonderful though.

    You will probably find the the "sweet spot" in the middle of the field where the stars are pin-points is not enormous, with extended stars or "seagulls" away from the centre and you will get some CA, but you can't go too far wrong at that price- and any binos are better than none!
    However, if you are thinking of purchase at that under $100 level, I suspect you will find that similarly priced porro-prism binos (like say the 8x40 Olympus DPS I) would give them a real run for their money...

    As for the little Meades: give them a go on your next clear night and you will be pleasantly surprised: I have even used 8x20 binos for night viewing- with surprisingly good results.

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    Default Re: Orion ShoreView 10x42 ?

    Hello DeanD

    I appreciate your kind and ample answer!

    I will give it a thought on it. From what you say, I realize maybe for planets you need more magnification, while for deep sky objects one needs wider field of view plus light gathering instead of magnification. Im hesitant between these Orion 10x42 versus Orion 15x70:
    Orion 15x70 Astronomy Binoculars | Orion Telescopes & Binoculars

    What I like about the 10x42 is that they are more versatile, it is, they are roof, more compact, so you can use them for many other purposes, not only astonomy...

    Anyway, thanks again for your help!

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    Default Re: Orion ShoreView 10x42 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe GM View Post
    Hello DeanD

    I appreciate your kind and ample answer!

    I will give it a thought on it. From what you say, I realize maybe for planets you need more magnification, while for deep sky objects one needs wider field of view plus light gathering instead of magnification. Im hesitant between these Orion 10x42 versus Orion 15x70:
    Orion 15x70 Astronomy Binoculars | Orion Telescopes & Binoculars

    What I like about the 10x42 is that they are more versatile, it is, they are roof, more compact, so you can use them for many other purposes, not only astonomy...

    Anyway, thanks again for your help!
    - and the other thing to remember is that it is difficult to hand-hold any binos when you get above 10x. You would need to use some sort of tripod or monopod to use the 15x70's for any length of time- so you are correct in noting that the 10x42's will be more versatile.

    As long as they are stably mounted the 15x70's will give a better view of fainter DSO's than the 10x42's: objects will be enlarged but of similar brightness to the 10x42's (similar exit pupil). With 15x you might just be able to see a couple of bands on Jupiter, and Saturn will appear a bit more elongated; but don't expect to see the rings as such. Collimation is more critical for 15x, so if you do end up getting them, make sure you aren't seeing double! This can be fixed, but it is sometimes an issue with cheaper binos due to less quality control in the manufacturing process- and with new binos I think it is best to keep the manufacturer honest and make sure they are properly collimated right from the start.

    Have fun!

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