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    Default Re: Not impressed with Orion 15x70



    Today I received the Garrett binoculars, and these have problems as well! They actually look exactly like the Orion ones. The images don't match at all from left to right. It's like looking through two different telescopes. When I look at the two ends of the binoculars from the side, they do not look aligned to each other. One looks like it's been pushed towards the middle. In other words, if I were to put the binoculars down on the table with the objective ends standing on the table, they would not be sitting perfectly flush on the table. Is there anyway to push or rotate one of the tubes outwards so they can sit flat?
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    Default Re: Not impressed with Orion 15x70

    The Geminis probably are the same binoculars made in the same Chinese factory.
    I have that exact model and they are junk in my opinion. They won't stay collimated (I even sent them off to a collimator with good reputation) and the mounting point is weak and broke so now I can't mount them.

    This is the advice you'll get anywhere:
    Return them and get the Garrett Signature (or the Orion Resolux or Oberwerk Ultra). Those are re-branded BA8 binocular and are good quality.
    Other good quality alternatives are Pentax 20x60 or Fujinon 15X70.

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    Default Re: Not impressed with Orion 15x70

    The Oberwerk, Orion and Fujinons seem to be all made by united optics and should be avoided. Orion will take your return almost no questions asked which tells me they know about the quality of the binos. anyone know about the nikon

    18x70IF WP WF ?


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    Default Re: Not impressed with Orion 15x70

    I also just found out about the Nikon 18x70IF WP WF from their site, but I could not find any place to buy them that looked like a decent store. The only prices I found were over $1000 and were from those useless websites that look like ads more than anything else.

    As far as getting 15x70 binoculars, I'm close to giving up. I'll see what Garrett has to say, but it's not worth me spending $300 on a pair because I won't use them often enough to justify the price. I'll just use my 10x50 instead.
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    Default Re: Not impressed with Orion 15x70

    what about a spotters scope?

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    Default Re: Not impressed with Orion 15x70

    Quote Originally Posted by papatooth View Post
    what about a spotters scope?
    Hello papatooth

    a spotting scope (100mm) has been my reentry into the hobby astronomy about a decade ago. Not bad, but as a cheap stuff, it fell into the parts after some period of time of using it.

    Last week I have picked up the Leica APO Televid angled spotting scope (82mm aperture, 25x-50x zoom), and as soon as the tests have been completed, I'll post a report.

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    Default Re: Not impressed with Orion 15x70

    I just noticed this thread. I bought the Celestron version of them on sale for $75 locally a while ago. The collimation was spot on (perhaps I got lucky???). One thing I did once I was satisfied with them was to strengthen the tripod adapter by filling it with epoxy.

    Good luck with the Garrett!

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    Default Re: Not impressed with Orion 15x70

    I have had a pair of Nikon Monarch 10x56 and they are a fantastic pair of binoculars for the money. I put them on a manfrotto swingarm tripod and can recline in a zero-gravity lawn chair and the viewing is great. I first spotted M-42 through them. You would need an adaptor for the tripod mount.
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    Default Re: Not impressed with Orion 15x70

    Avoid Fujinons? I have heard nothing but good about them. The other variously branded United Optics BA8 also have great reputations.

    But since the poster doesn't want to spend $300, it doesn't matter.
    My only suggestion is the Pentax 20x60 which are quality binoculars, will show a lot more details than the 10x50 nemesis currently has, and they only cost $175.

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    Default Re: Not impressed with Orion 15x70

    UO actually sells the top tier 15x70's online for $188 which I find kind of funny. Talk about undercutting there clients. I would have bought them before but they offered no ability to return them if a defect should have arisen.

 

 
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