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    Hi all!

    I'm starting to look for a binoculars and would like to hear your advice. Right now, I'm looking at 3 models:
    - Orion ultraview 10x50;
    - Garret gemini 12x60 (this is the cheapest);
    - Celestron skymaster dx 9x63.

    Does anyone know them? What would you suggest.

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    Hello rsousa,

    when it is about the magnification like 10x-12x and hand held binos, I'd have a look at Pentax 10x50 or 12x50,

    Review: Pentax PCF WP II 10X50 Binocular

    or even at the Garrett's Signature 10.5x70.

    The Gemini Series at Garrett's, the Orions and the Celestrons are certainly good starters, but the Pentax and the Signature will have more light transmission (%) due to the more sophisticated multicoatings - important for the faint objects, and they will be a bit sharper across the field of view.

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    Well, I'd throw out the 10x50's just because they won't offer as much as the others (they aren't bad binoculars by any means though). I don't think you can go wrong between the Garretts and Celestrons.

    A note of warning, you should be able to hold any of these binoculars by hand (I can hold my 15x70's for easy to see objects), but if you want to really observe you should get a sturdy tripod with a good tripod mount adapter. Even better would be a mirror mount or parallelogram mount. For even more observing ease, look for mounts that can attic Telrads or green laser pointers.

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    Thank you very much!

    My idea is to have a handheld binoculars, both for quick observations and to explore the sky while I'm taking pictures with the scope. Thus, I think the maximum would be 12x60, right?

    The 10.5x70 looks interesting, but I'afraid it is bigger than what I'd comfortably hold. Besides, it doesn't fit my budget. However, the Pentax seems to be a really good option.
    Which Pentax do you recommend: 10 or 12 x50?
    Do you think the Pentax 12x50 will provide brighter images than the Garrett 12x60?

    Again, thank you very much
    ricardo

    The 10.5x70 does not fit my budget, but I'll definitely look the Pentax.

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    Yes, max would be about 60mm aperture.

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    I'll keep reading, but the more I read the more confused I become

    I wasn't planning to buy it this week, because I wanted to have more time to gather information and decide which one would be better for me. However, I just found what seems to be a good deal on the pentax 12x50 ($135 shipped). Thus, I'm not sure if I will be able to resist

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    Hello Rsousa,

    the Pentax binoculars offer a very good performance-to-price ratio,

    Amazon.com: Binoculars - Pentax: Camera & Photo

    Even if is difficult to compare them with the Gemini Series, should I, then I'd possibly take the Pentax,

    Binoculars Guide - Pentax 12X50 XCF Binoculars Review – Information, Pentax Binoculars Reviews & Prices

    I'd also recommend the 12x50 size, with the 4mm exit pupil, as on most suburban-to-country skies your eye's iris will not open much above the 4mm.

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    Hi JG, I ordered the pentax PCF II 12x50 Waterproof.
    Thanks!

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    Just happened upon this thread while getting ready to ask the same question. Thanks for the advice. I am not looking a significant observation but would like a nice set of bino's to spot with.
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    Hello Ricardo,

    welcome among the binocular users, and don't forget please to write a review,

    Pentax 10x50 and 12x50 PCF WP II Astronomy Binoculars

    Clear skies,

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