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    I have been looking to purchase some inexpensive astronomy binoculars and have noticed that Celestron, Orion, and Garrett all have 15x70s that all look similar.
    Are these binoculars the same model? Or is there a possibility that the difference in price actually indicates a difference in quality?

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    the celestrons are rebranded revelations(gso).
    possibly the orions too(not 100% there).
    i'm not familiar with the garrets,will check them out.
    clear skies,

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    apparently,the orion resolux are the same
    as the garretts.
    hope this helps.
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    Andy - Resolux?
    I looked them up and, by my standards, they are not "inexpensive binoculars".

    The messages on this forum indicate that there are a lot of quality issues
    found on inexpensive (<$150) binoculars.
    So I was trying to discover if there is a decided difference between Celestrons
    @$60, Orions @$80, and Garretts @$130.
    Any advice is appreciated.

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    Hi Steve,

    After two defective Celestron 15x70s in a row (one with blemish on objective lens, one with a tripod socket that would not accept the tripod adapter screw), I got some Oberwerks 15x70s. They are identical to the Garretts, but I'd heard of some Garretts arriving poorly collimated, so I paid $10 more for the Oberwerks in the hope that they might have better finished goods quality control.

    Even the Oberwerks were not perfect; when I tried to remove the tripod socket cap, the socket (a brass insert screwed into the black bino body) unscrewed from the binos and came off with the cap. Not really a biggie; this was easily fixed by adding a small drop of Locktite to the outside threads and screwing it back in.

    In my limited experience, compared to the Celestrons, the Oberwereks have:
    1) Better overall fit, finish and materials
    2) Brighter, clearer views (due to full multi-coating)
    3) The same dual eyepiece cap as the Celestrons. However, because the eyecup rubber is better quality than that of the Celestrons, the cap does not fall off when the binos are held with eyepieces pointed down.
    4) A little bit more weight than the Celestrons

    Like I said, I bought the Oberwerks instead of the Garretts because of interweb anecdotes. But it's probably just a crapshoot. The Garretts are $10 cheaper than the Oberwerks, and can be bundled with a tripod or monopod for more savings. By buying a Garrett Series 2000 monopod separately, I paid $20 more than I would have for a Garrett bino/ monopod combo.

    But after trying to save money on Celestrons only to get defective products, I'm just happy to have some binos that I don't have to send back.
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    Hello Widespread,

    thanks for the very helpful review,

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    Thanks Widespread, for the detailed and informed response.

    Your details of flaws on the Oberwerks is appreciated.
    From your missive the purchase of any low-end astronomy
    binoculars looks to be a hit or miss situation.

    I ordered the Orions because of the customer service, price, and they
    are supposedly fully multi-coated.
    When the Orions arrive I will hope for the best but not be surprised
    if there are "issues". But hey, what can be expected for $80?

    Thanks again for the info.
    Steve

 

 

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