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    Default Star tools v. PI



    Just had my first look at star tools, I've been using PI for about 3 years now and am still confused by it. On the other hand downloaded Star tools and the first time I put a pic through it it came out reasonable. I've read a few things on ST and watched a few You tube vids on it. Seems like what I want but before I purchase a licence I'd like to hear a few for and against it arguments. Thanks in advance.

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    Default Re: Star tools v. PI

    I cannot compare Star Tools to PI as I have never tried PI but I am quite proficient in using Star Tools. Not to blow my own horn but I have won 5 AAPODs, been published 3 times and have won numerous awards here at AF.net all thanks to using Star Tools. It is a very powerful processing program and there is still plenty for me to learn. Have a look at my gallery on AstroBin or my galleries here and judge for yourself.

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    Default Re: Star tools v. PI

    Quote Originally Posted by Hondo View Post
    I cannot compare Star Tools to PI as I have never tried PI but I am quite proficient in using Star Tools. Not to blow my own horn but I have won 5 AAPODs, been published 3 times and have won numerous awards here at AF.net all thanks to using Star Tools. It is a very powerful processing program and there is still plenty for me to learn. Have a look at my gallery on AstroBin or my galleries here and judge for yourself.

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    Default Re: Star tools v. PI

    I've not tried PI either. I have seen amazing results from that application. At the hands of someone that knows what they are doing, wonderful things happen. It will do a lot of things and do them quite well.

    I've also read over and over that the learning curve with PI is all but verticle.

    I have also seen amazing results with ST. Scott's (Hondo) images are beautifully rendered and beautiful to examine. The results speak for themselves. Based up the price difference and what an experienced hand can achieve (i.e. Scott), it was a no-brainer decision for me. I bought the license for ST.

    I've used Scott's basic workflow that he as graciously provided here: StarTools software - Astronomy Forums | Telescope Forums & Reviews | Astronomy Community (Parts 1 and 2) to render my fumbling AP attempts into something moderately pleasing to my eye (I'm a noob at AP). Compared to what I was achieving just a couple of months ago without it, I am quite happy with my purchase.
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    Default Re: Star tools v. PI

    I haven't tried PI yet, but have been using StarTools for over a year now. I started with the basic flow Scott provided, and grew some variations on my own. ST is a very nice tool for getting what looks to me to be natural colors, and the Wipe tool deals reasonably well with gradients - something I deal with a lot in my light-polluted skies.

    My processing toolkit also includes PhotoShop which allows more control than ST for fine Curves adjustments, and is also very useful for blending images. As a place to start post-processing ST is pretty easy to pick up (as you have already experienced). It doesn't have the power of PI, but it is also easier to get good results.

    Here is my latest effort: M33 reprocess - 4 nights data

    I would recommend ST to a new person, you will have to decide whether you want to add it to your arsenal of tools.

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    Default Re: Star tools v. PI

    Pixinsight is hard to learn on your own. You need to have help. Check out Warren Keller's ip4ap. For in depth, you can try Adam Block's tutorials. Kayron's Light Vortex Astronomy is a good free resource.

    Post questions on this forum and many of us can help.

    Or just use Star Tools if you're happy with it.
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    Default Re: Star tools v. PI

    I tried the trial version of PI a few years back, super steep learning curve and a lot of elbow grease to produce even a simple image.
    Things may have changed but I did not like the fact that you could not use the software Offline.

    ST on the other hand is pretty intuitive and a image can be produced with minimal effort. As Scott's images show, much can be done in the hands of experience and knowledge.

    The clincher for me was price, out in SA I cannot justify the cost of PI.

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    Default Re: Star tools v. PI

    thanks for all the replies so as I've already got PI I'll get star tools and use that until I want to step up to PI

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    Default Re: Star tools v. PI

    Affirming the comments of others. Software & I do not get along well & I get results from ST.
    Use Hondo's workflow & view a couple of the authors's tutorials - work a capture while following one of the tutorials & take notes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingclinton View Post
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    This is incorrect, actually. I use PI offline all the time. It just can't search for updates.
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