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    (Perhaps this isn't a very PC thread, but...)

    How does everyone JUSTIFY the massive price of Photoshop ($699 for PS CS5) for Astrophotography purposes ??

    I'm a PSE9 user (have paid through the nose for most every second upgrade since PSE4 - which I guess in hindsight would collectively have paid for a copy of PS CS4 at least), which gets used for Daylight Photography as well (RAW development, basic PP, touch-ups). I also use the competitive ACDSee product line for it's better Portfolio tools (which could be done in Lightroom, if I paid yet more to Adobe). Beyond this, there are a number of Free (DSS, IrfanView, Registax, GIMP) and Reasonably-Low Priced / Value Priced (AstroPlanner, Raw Therapee, ACDSee) Applications which I use and have been happy to pay their asking prices. And I'm working my way through Demo / Trial versions of a few other AP Apps...

    But Photoshop CS5 ?? $699 for Full or $599 for Upgrade from PSE9. Of course PS CS5 Student/Teacher is only $199, which savings might almost justify the Semester of Tuition at the local Comm. College.

    I see so many forum posters listing PS amongst the tools used to process their images - I'm Jealous.

    How are you justifying the purchase price that could otherwise have bought you a decent Dob or Newt or smallish APO ?? Or have I missed something ?? Are so many of you using an older / legacy version found for lower price ?? Or is there some shop that is offering a steep discount for AP customers ??

    Or do I just have to buck-up and admit that I'm going to have to Pay if I want to Play in the big leagues ??
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    Honestly, I feel the same.

    BUT, if you're a professional photographer, and you use programs such as this, to make a living with, then I'd have to say it's worth it.

    Just not something I would invest in, just for the few DSS & Solar pictures I take.....And what's worse, I don't even know how to USE Photoshop. You might as well ask me to write computer code for ballistic missiles...
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    I use Gimp...free is always justifiable
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    I already own it for work I do.. as part of CS4.. I don't upgrade unless I need to and while some of the new TIFF support etc.
    I haven't evaluated all the tools out there but for just AP it may not be the best investment. Looking at Star Tools.. now might be better investment.
    There are legal ways to get it for less, like taking a class or getting associated with a school so that you can order academic or buying a previous version and upgrading if you need to.
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    Few years back I bought the CS3+ suite....This came with photoshop, dreamweaver, and all the other programs focused around website development...I bought from reputable online(beware research first) dealer who sells older new software.......MY price for the $1999 package was $329. Very happy I went this route.

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    Our club's best astro-imagers use PhotoShop....... so what can I say? There are alternatives like GIMP but it does not do 16 bit files only 8 bit.

    so you loose a little of the data you have collected. My joke has always been that the Chinese will come out with a software program with all of the same features for $69.95 ------- one of these days.

    and it will be sold at all the Big Box stores for $58.72

    Some of our members use the free stuff that is out there and do very good work at no cost.

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    I use PSE 9 for terrestrial. I WAS going to get CS 5 educational version via my wife who does actual work in a school... Because you NEED 16-bit support for AP,

    But for the same price I've decided instead to go with PixInsight because it is a specialised AP tool with free upgrades that so far has comfortably outperformed everything else I've tried. For example, it stacks way better than DSS, it can handle any file format and it has fantastic gradient/noise reduction tools.

    All this is purely IMO of course.
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    Hi,

    My AUD 0.02; for processing astronomical images, I would stay away from PhotoShop. PS is a great piece of software for generic photo use, but addresses very few AP-specific problems without having to invest into additional plug-ins or having to resort to workarounds. Your money would be better spent on an AP-specific package like PixInsight, AstroArt, AIP4WIN, StarTools, Nebulosity, MaximDL etc. depending on your gear, skills and purposes.

    A lot of people use PS, because that's what they are used to, coming from other backgrounds of photography. Others got into AP, way before dedicated software was available and PS was the only choice. Yet others prefer it because they like to be in control and know precisely what they are doing with the comparatively crude tools (for AP at least) they have available in PS. Yet others use it because that's what they see the former categories of people use (and there are tons of tutorials available for PS).

    Now, this is a bold statement, but I feel that getting into PS in this day and age - purely for AP - is, IMHO, a waste of money and time. We are spoilt for choice with far better (better as in out-of-the-box better) and cheaper AP dedicated alternatives. I have my own alternative preferences , but faced with a mainstream choice between, for example, PS and PixInsight, the latter will simply give you more bang for your buck.

    Cheers,

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    I use Paint.NET. It doesn't have the extensive functionality of PS, but it's free and offers some good basic photo editing features.

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    I am a photographer (commercial, sports and unfortunately, weddings) so I already used both PS CS5 and LR3.

    Being painfully aware that specialized software can make your life much easier (I own many specialized applications to do certain tasks faster and easier than PS) I tried many of the demos of AP specific software. What I realized is that none of them could match what I could do with PS and LR.

    Now be aware that I was already used to using these tools. I recently tried another AP specific app and was suprised how well it worked, it provided images that would only take a little PS work to turn into great images! But wait, I can already do that in a few minutes in PS and LR and no have to spend more money, learn something different, and change my workflow.

    So, to each their own but my personal opinion at this point is that given the abilities, flexibility, wealth of tutorials/books/videos/support/seminars/etc that no one else can match the Adobe products for image processing.

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