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    Got my 5” scope out again Thursday soon after dusk in an effort to bag some more southern asterisms. The skies seemed a tad hazier than the previous night.

    First, I re-observed HD 12835 in Fornax from last night – despite being better placed above the horizon, it looked the same as the night before.

    For the first “new” object, sought out Slotegraaf 5 in Horologium very low down the horizon (RA=4h 2m 40s, DEC =-44° 31' 30", IDSA=#97), but large (51') and bright. Took a long time to find, but when I did, the view was blocked by a telephone pole and lines. Not logged – re-observe again.

    1. HD 26979 (Eri, Ast, size=34 x 11’, RA=4h 13m 57s, DEC=-38° 10' 12", IDSA=#97) – IDSA shows 5 stars from mag. 7.4 to 9.7. Using 58x, only one additional star of mag. 10.7 was visible. Shaped like the mirror image of a check mark. This completes all the Eridanus asterisms I’ve seen from the Deep Sky Hunter’s List.

    2. HD 28550 or Streicher 18 (Cae, Ast, size=9 x 3.5’, RA=4h 28m 28s, DEC=-37° 40' 48", IDSA=#97) – Plotted in IDSA showing 3 stars from mag. 8.5 to 9.8, not far from HD 26979. Despite a magnification of 113x, I could only add one mag. 10.2 star, which in addition to the three brighter IDSA members, gives this asterism a trapezoid shape, like a bowl leaning sideways.

    Not far from the last asterism is Spano 2 in Caelum (RA=4h 56m 51s, DEC=-39° 6' 12", IDSA=#97); couldn’t get a good view because of telephone lines again. Not logged; must be re-observed and logged/sketched in order to complete the Caelum asterisms in the Deep Sky Hunter's List.

    After going back inside for a half-hour break, sought out Alessi J0710.3-1826 in Canis Major (RA=7h 10m 21s, DEC=-18° 26' 0", IDSA=#72). Spent over half an hour trying to pick out the very faint members from the corner of my eye, but couldn’t reconcile my sketch with the C2A chart. So not logged – might be worth revisiting on a more transparent night.

    Unlike the previous night’s session (all 7 targets successfully hit), this one was somewhat of a disappointment (2 out of 5), especially since I spent too much time on the misses compared to the hits.
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    Default Re: More Misses than Hits

    Still well done Terry. You are working quite low there so it can be challenging, whether its the sky or physical obstructions. Here are my notes of the ones you list that I have observed, showing which instrument I was using and the latitude of the observing site. Good luck as you continue your deep south digging.


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    Slotegraaf 5 (Horologium, Asterism, brightest star=7.6, size=51.0’):

    I started by aiming the Rigel at the wide pairing of Alpha (mag 3.9) and Delta (mag 4.9) Horologii, then slowly shifting southwest for about 2° to locate this bright and obvious grouping. At 26x I counted 12 stars total, with a nice smile of four along the southern side, which included the group’s anchor star HD 25843 at mag 7.6 (with three others of 8th). Just above this stellar grin was a triangle of three 8th mag stars, with two more of 8th above and pointing north with a 9th mag star between them. A 9th mag star was positioned just above the eastern tip of the triangle while another of 9th was spotted southwest of the western end of the smile. The view at 40x did not add any new stars, but at 71x, I did add a 10th mag ember just NNE of HD 25834. So this pretty clutch of stars was quite a nice beginning to the session.

    Streicher 18 (Caelum, Astersim, size=9.0’x3.5’):

    Again moving back into Eridanus, but this time to Upsilon3 & 4, I then turned southeast for almost 5° crossing into Caelum yet again, to find Beta Caeli (mag 5.0). Here I moved WSW to a curved line of five stars (7th and 8th mag) that hooked back north at the end. The star at the end of the hook is the anchor of this group, mag 8.0 HD 28550. Viewing at 26x I had a small triangle as plotted in the IDSA with the main star at the northern tip. Now at 40x, I added a fourth star (9th) that was offset slightly outward to the west, giving the west side of the triangle a rounded or semi-circular appearance. Even at 71x and 107x, the view remained the same with no additional stars picked up. Overall, a very simple group, that while not unpleasant, was not particularly memorable in the 80mm.


    4.5” newt at about 5°S latitude

    Spano 2 (Caelum, asterism, brightest star=7.9, size=33.0’):

    Anchored by mag 7.9 HD 31688 at its northwestern edge, this asterism was studied from 20x to 74x. Its main attribute was a gentle curving narrow scatter of about 10 to 12 stars flowing toward the southeast from the anchor star. There were a few other members tossed randomly off to the sides, but the little trickle of stars kept the eye’s attention for the most part. Initially at 20x this streamer of stars was quite weak and difficult, but with increasing magnification it stood out nicely in the field, making the journey to locate it worth the effort.


    10x50 binoculars at about 23.5°N latitude

    HD 26979 Group (Eridanus, asterism, brightest star=6.9, size=34.0’x11.0’):

    Changing over to IDSA chart 97-right, I dipped a little south of where I found the previous asterism. Returning to the star labeled as g Eri in the atlas, this time in the upper right corner of 97-right, I then swept southeast just over 7°, crossing into Horologium to pick up a wide pairing of stars, Alpha (mag 3,9) and Delta (mag 4.9) Horologii. Turning north I following a scraggly line of six stars ranging from 6th to 8th magnitude. Just northwest of the northern end of this line, I spotted a pair of stars associated with my target asterism. The mag 6.9 anchor star was the western of the two, with the eastern star being mag 7.1. There was a mag 8.5 star a few minutes to their northwest, but I was unable to pick this one up as I was even deeper into my southern light dome. As with many of these, had I had my 80mm with the ability to increase magnification, the visual results would have been at least a little, if not a lot better.
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    Default Re: More Misses than Hits

    Thanks for your notes Alan!

    Slotegraaf 5 - hoping to catch this again soon; saw a few stars before the view was obstructed.

    Streicher 18 - we both saw the same # of stars (4)

    Spano 2 - couldn't see any stars (besides the anchor) when I first saw it at 31x. Looking forward to bumping up the mag. and picking up at least a few members.

    Hazier skies expected tonight and tomorrow, so may not get a chance to do any more observing for a while. Also there is the waxing moon.
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    Default Re: More Misses than Hits

    Yes, this kind of misfortune happens. I have got a lantern-pole situated almost south, sometimes I must wait at least 15 minutes. In the meantime I search for something else. Transparency is not so easily bend to ones wishes I am afraid, as I experienced again yesterday. Sigh. Part of our hobby.
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    Well, as Meatloaf should have sung, "2 out of 5 ain't bad."

    You need to take a chainsaw to that telephone pole.

    Thought I was getting an opportunity this evening as it was reasonably clear all day. As early evening settled in the clouds did too. Completely stuffed up now. I gave them my Number 11 display with both middle fingers.
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    Default Re: More Misses than Hits

    Quote Originally Posted by John Baars View Post
    Yes, this kind of misfortune happens. I have got a lantern-pole situated almost south, sometimes I must wait at least 15 minutes. In the meantime I search for something else. Transparency is not so easily bend to ones wishes I am afraid, as I experienced again yesterday. Sigh. Part of our hobby.
    Unfortunately, there are many telephone poles and power lines on my SW horizon. Poor transparency with hazy skies tonight, so no observing.

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    Well, as Meatloaf should have sung, "2 out of 5 ain't bad."

    You need to take a chainsaw to that telephone pole.

    Thought I was getting an opportunity this evening as it was reasonably clear all day. As early evening settled in the clouds did too. Completely stuffed up now. I gave them my Number 11 display with both middle fingers.
    Projected to be poor transparency for tonight, but as evening fell it looked like the skies cleared up, so I set up my scope and other things. But then it got hazier so I packed everything in. A little while later it cleared up again, so I got a different scope and tripod back out. But after being inside for a while to prepare my targets, I went back out and the hazy clouds returned. So I aborted a second time.

    Right now I have two heavy tripods and two OTAs disassembled in my living room...
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    Quote Originally Posted by terrynak View Post
    Projected to be poor transparency for tonight, but as evening fell it looked like the skies cleared up, so I set up my scope and other things. But then it got hazier so I packed everything in. A little while later it cleared up again, so I got a different scope and tripod back out. But after being inside for a while to prepare my targets, I went back out and the hazy clouds returned. So I aborted a second time.

    Right now I have two heavy tripods and two OTAs disassembled in my living room...
    This is why you need camo netting for the scope and a ghillie suit for yourself. Sneak out incrementally, set up the scope and cover it with the netting. Don the ghillie suit and move slowly out to observe. What ever you do, don't turn on a red light. They'll be on you like the creatures in that movie A Quiet Place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bladekeeper View Post
    This is why you need camo netting for the scope and a ghillie suit for yourself. Sneak out incrementally, set up the scope and cover it with the netting. Don the ghillie suit and move slowly out to observe. What ever you do, don't turn on a red light. They'll be on you like the creatures in that movie A Quiet Place.
    Heh heh heh - that's funny. A ghillie suit would make a good Halloween party costume...

    Not seen that movie a Quiet Place, but it sounds like a good one. I see it's got a 95% approval rating on Rotten Tomatoes and has turned in a huge profit. Also an Academy Award nomination for Best Sound Editing in the upcoming 2019 event.
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    Better luck next time Terry. But two out of five in baseball (.400) and you'd be put in the hall of fame.
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    Better luck next time Terry. But two out of five in baseball (.400) and you'd be put in the hall of fame.
    Thanks Michael. Edgar Martinez just got in the HOF this year with a .312 average.

    Anyways, I hope to get some more observing time in within the next few days, before the moon waxes too much...
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