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    Default Re: Observing Report for 05 February 2019 - another episode of dancing with the cloud



    The dance is too familiar. Nice work on squeezing a couple more targets Alan!
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    Default Re: Observing Report for 05 February 2019 - another episode of dancing with the cloud

    Quote Originally Posted by terrynak View Post
    Good to see you observing the same part of the sky as I was last night Alan! I was also experiencing constantly moving clouds interspersed with clear skies, with some windiness. Not the best seeing conditions.

    o) Alessi J0345.0-2749 - saw this last night, picked up about 6 stars at 58x; might have picked up more with better seeing conditions and if not for the constant interruption of clouds. Even at 58x, I was only seeing the central portion of the cluster because of its size (50'). Worth trying again.

    o) ESO 489-1 - I see the triangle of three stars you mentioned in C2A, but they are listed as being between mag. 11.2 - 11.75 according to the Guide Star Catalogue I'm using. I have doubts about picking this up given my location (both darkness quality and latitude), even with the 5".

    Also was planning on Al J0343.5-2924, but too many clouds moving in by the time I finished with Al J0345.0-2749. On my list, along with HD 12835 (I need to catch this early in the evening).
    Thanks Terry. The dancing clouds seems to be a common affliction then. I think under better conditions I should definitely pick up more in the large Alessi asterism. The thing is Bruno Alessi was using imagery when he identified most of the asterisms bearing his name. So while the field may be large, it may be populated with numerous dim stars that I am not going to pick up with the little newt. I suspect what we are seeing is the best it has to offer small apertures.

    I got my star magnitudes for ESO 489-1 from Sky Tools 3. The brightest is TYC 06500-2358 1 at mag 10.43, with the others progressively dimmer into the 11th to 13th mag range.

    I may not get a chance for the smaller Alessi asterism in Fornax. But, since I have observed into the Fornax galaxy cluster at our dark site, I would be able to hit that one using one of my dobs, which would yield better results anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by John Baars View Post
    Yes, I recognize that!
    Someone here on the forum called it : "dancing with clouds".
    I haven't tried the following yet: Act as if you are packing your things, cover up the telescope and go in. Within 10 minutes they will disappear, presuming you have finished. That is the moment to return and win another 10 minutes!
    Thanks John. I am not so sure that works. I have tried that, but when I came back out the clouds were worse. At least here anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigzmey View Post
    The dance is too familiar. Nice work on squeezing a couple more targets Alan!
    Thanks Andrey. Yeah, it is familiar to many I'm afraid. But I admit, this is the worst trip here I've had as far as disruptive clouds. This is the dry season, but also consistently cloudy at night. I've been here during the rainy season and had better conditions!
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    Default Re: Observing Report for 05 February 2019 - another episode of dancing with the cloud

    Quote Originally Posted by KT4HX View Post
    Thanks Terry. The dancing clouds seems to be a common affliction then. I think under better conditions I should definitely pick up more in the large Alessi asterism. The thing is Bruno Alessi was using imagery when he identified most of the asterisms bearing his name. So while the field may be large, it may be populated with numerous dim stars that I am not going to pick up with the little newt. I suspect what we are seeing is the best it has to offer small apertures.

    I got my star magnitudes for ESO 489-1 from Sky Tools 3. The brightest is TYC 06500-2358 1 at mag 10.43, with the others progressively dimmer into the 11th to 13th mag range.

    I may not get a chance for the smaller Alessi asterism in Fornax. But, since I have observed into the Fornax galaxy cluster at our dark site, I would be able to hit that one using one of my dobs, which would yield better results anyway.
    Just checked with C2A again - the brightest star in the triangle of ESO 489-1 (06500-02358) is listed as mag. 11.21, while the dimmest (06500-02279) is listed as mag. 11.75. I suspect the Sky Tools 3 numbers are closer to the truth, but I will seek out this OC (on my list now) and find out.

    C2A does not identify ESO clusters of course, but I was able to pinpoint its location from IDSA and your description of the triangle. Looking forward to tonight's observing session...
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    Default Re: Observing Report for 05 February 2019 - another episode of dancing with the cloud

    Well, you know, Alan, having a scope covered in DSO, planets, and stars draws in the clouds. They think the little scope is a patch of sky they haven't covered up yet, so here they come...

    Regardless, you logged two more objects than I have all year so far.

    Tonight we get severe thunderstorms and an isolated tornado threat, and then a winter weather advisory. I am waiting for the trees to sprout leaves on Thursday, and then autumn colors and leaf drop on Friday. Every day brings a new season, it seems.
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    Default Re: Observing Report for 05 February 2019 - another episode of dancing with the cloud

    Oh yeah, I forgot about the decor of your little newt. Maybe you should switch it up and get a cloudy sky airbrushed over it.

    My forecast is starting to look about as bad as Bryan’s. Tomorrow’s high is supposed to be 77° and then 45° Saturday with a low in the mid 20’s. I don’t see any clear nights in the 10 day forecast either.
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    Default Re: Observing Report for 05 February 2019 - another episode of dancing with the cloud

    Hey Alan - you took a shot, good swings at nasty pitching.
    We've got the North side of Bryan's weather - freezing drizzle for 3 days and now it is really getting nasty.
    Sleet right now, freezing rain through the night and a topping of light dusty snow on top for dessert.
    Good news is tomorrow night will be clear, bad news 35mph winds and temperatures that would sound much better in °C

    Keep reporting, it is as close as some of us can get to observing right now.
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    Default Re: Observing Report for 05 February 2019 - another episode of dancing with the cloud

    Quote Originally Posted by terrynak View Post
    Just checked with C2A again - the brightest star in the triangle of ESO 489-1 (06500-02358) is listed as mag. 11.21, while the dimmest (06500-02279) is listed as mag. 11.75. I suspect the Sky Tools 3 numbers are closer to the truth, but I will seek out this OC (on my list now) and find out.

    C2A does not identify ESO clusters of course, but I was able to pinpoint its location from IDSA and your description of the triangle. Looking forward to tonight's observing session...
    Yeah, I personally have faith in the stellar database used by ST3 when it comes to magnitudes. Another good thing about ST3 is its inclusion of more obscure and smaller catalogues of objects than something like C2A. The one advantage that C2A has for our interests is the DSH asterism list, which I appreciate. If not for that fact alone, I likely wouldn't even have it on my laptop. One thing I do not like about it is that they utilize the RNGC rather than the full NGC. While some may argue that using the RNGC it filters out many of the so called non-existent objects within the original NGC. Personally I prefer, for the sake of historical reference purposes, having the whole shebang in there. But again that is just my opinion.

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    Well, you know, Alan, having a scope covered in DSO, planets, and stars draws in the clouds. They think the little scope is a patch of sky they haven't covered up yet, so here they come...

    Regardless, you logged two more objects than I have all year so far.

    Tonight we get severe thunderstorms and an isolated tornado threat, and then a winter weather advisory. I am waiting for the trees to sprout leaves on Thursday, and then autumn colors and leaf drop on Friday. Every day brings a new season, it seems.
    Yeah, well - you may be on to something there. My elaborately decorated scope, which you know I sooooo love, might be the magnetic draw rather than my personality!

    That in this one session alone I have outscored you for this new year does indeed sound really pathetic! But that is through no fault of your own. It seems you find yourself a climatological vortex of some sort, the likes that none ever want to experience.

    Good luck with your weather cycles there that seem to be running as smooth as a drunken sailor!

    Quote Originally Posted by Prowler75 View Post
    Oh yeah, I forgot about the decor of your little newt. Maybe you should switch it up and get a cloudy sky airbrushed over it.

    My forecast is starting to look about as bad as Bryan’s. Tomorrow’s high is supposed to be 77° and then 45° Saturday with a low in the mid 20’s. I don’t see any clear nights in the 10 day forecast either.
    Thanks Craig. As you know I prefer my scopes simple and unadorned. But a cloud motif might be more eye appealing! I have heard, in talking to my wife, how the weather has been a bit erratic. She was enjoying the warm weather, and she can tolerate the 40s as long as it doesn't dump sub freezing on her along with snow!

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    Hey Alan - you took a shot, good swings at nasty pitching.
    We've got the North side of Bryan's weather - freezing drizzle for 3 days and now it is really getting nasty.
    Sleet right now, freezing rain through the night and a topping of light dusty snow on top for dessert.
    Good news is tomorrow night will be clear, bad news 35mph winds and temperatures that would sound much better in °C

    Keep reporting, it is as close as some of us can get to observing right now.
    Thanks Steve. It does indeed seem to be a broad pattern of erratic weather eating its way east, though it appears a portion thereof has taken a liking to Arkansas and set up residence there. Much to Bryan's chagrin.

    Good luck with your cold clearing, and I will continue to fight the good fight whenever possible to bring little crumbs to the table.
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    Yeah, well - you may be on to something there. My elaborately decorated scope, which you know I sooooo love, might be the magnetic draw rather than my personality!

    That in this one session alone I have outscored you for this new year does indeed sound really pathetic! But that is through no fault of your own. It seems you find yourself a climatological vortex of some sort, the likes that none ever want to experience.

    Good luck with your weather cycles there that seem to be running as smooth as a drunken sailor!
    Case in point: Yesterday we had 72° F and clouds, thunderstorms. Today we have 18° F and snow flurries. I think somebody set the switch to "chaos".
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    Default Re: Observing Report for 05 February 2019 - another episode of dancing with the cloud

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    Case in point: Yesterday we had 72° F and clouds, thunderstorms. Today we have 18° F and snow flurries. I think somebody set the switch to "chaos".
    Then by all means, chaos it is!

    You know what they say, "variety is the spice of life." I suspect you have a massive case of heartburn!
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