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    Default Finally clear skies, NGC 2420



    At last..
    Yesterday evening the sky was clear. The early morning already predicted a promise: I was able to spot Venus and Jupiter with my small Maksutov. In the evening it was still clear and I carried my 120mm refractor outside.

    Transparency was good, seeing not but that became better during the evening. I immediately started out with some old friends, friends I had not seen in months and some of them in a year. How good it is to see those objects. M42, of course with the Trapezium and the E star and an occasionally flashing F star, M43, M35, M78. Some open clusters, with or without nebulae in Orion NGC1981, NGC1975, NGC1980.
    The Cluster in NGC2244 and with my 30mm Eudiascopic / 25mm CZJ and several filters the dark hole in which the cluster NGC2244 resides. Which means that I saw a somewhat brighter inner-edge too. Special interest in NGC1788 a reflection nebula, very difficult however and on the edge of suggestion. I spend more than 45 minutes on it , with an uncertain outcome. Eskimo-nebula was as beautiful as ever.

    My final deepsky object was the small open cluster NGC2420 in Gemini. That small cluster has a special meaning to me. More than 27 years ago we were on holiday in a dark part of the Netherlands. With my 3 year and one year old sons. In the evening I already had found out the woods we had our holiday-home in, were not suitable for astronomical observations.Too much trees. So I discovered a meadow, with a fence around it. ( The Netherlands are loaded with fences) Ideal open place, with a farm at 500 meters.

    Later that night I sneaked across the fence, the farmer had gone to bed, and installed my 90mm Celestron C90 on a very simple equatorial hand driven mount and started enjoying. It is one of the darkest skies in the Netherlands. I searched for the Eskimo nebula. Could not find it at first glance.....so many stars.... Than a small faint smudge wandered across my field of view. ??? I did not not know of any small faint smudges in this area. I centered it and wondered what it was. It crossed my mind that I found a ( to me unknown) comet. Still wondering what it was I went to sleep.

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    The next morning I consulted Skyatlas 2000. It turned out to be NGC2420. That evening I went out again and found some individual star-members in it! I wondered how this would look like in a C14. Several weeks later I saw it in a C14. Two dozens of faint stars. The magic had gone. Yesterday I saw it again in my 120mm refractor, and remembered this story. Some memories of that holiday with our small boys came back. And together with the memories a touch of magic......

    I closed my session with Sirius, another beholder of astronomers' awe. The pup was questionable.
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    Default Re: Finally clear skies, NGC 2420

    Hello John,

    and thank you for your inspiring report.
    Some very nice objects in your observing session, and great descriptions and stories to remember!

    The NGC1788 "Fledermaus in Orion" reflection nebula has been also a hard nut for me, even if it should be easily found.

    Glad, you have enjoyed clear skies,

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    Default Re: Finally clear skies, NGC 2420

    Excellent outing John. Lots of good objects, and the memories evoked by the view of NGC 2420. This cluster is an old familiar friend of mine, having observed it with various instruments over the years. My last observation of it was this past November from my backyard with the 12 inch dob, where I recorded as below. FYI, the comet I referred to in the comments is Comet 38P/Stephan-Oterma.

    NGC 2420 (Gemini, open cluster, mag=8.3, size=10.0’):

    East of the dim diamond of stars in which I found the comet, I easily spotted this pretty cluster and old friend. Observing at 84x only, it presented a small, compact dusting of upwards of 30 tiny diamonds crowded together in its small field. Seen at higher magnification it can be a stunning field, peppered with myriad stars. This one really deserves more attention from observers than it gets.
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    Default Re: Finally clear skies, NGC 2420

    Hello John, hello Alan,

    Gemini has got some amazing clusters, and other DSOs.
    Very true, as I have seen on 13th November also a close encounter between that 38P/Stephan-Oterma comet,
    but this time with the NGC 2420 open cluster, well known as L35 in the Levy List of comet masqueraders, ha, ha.

    And in Gemini is also the "easiest" Abell to see, the Medusa Nebula, even if there are no easy Abells to see at all.
    And if it were not enough, also the easiest Jonkheere, the Jonkheere 900 planetary nebula,
    the only Jonkheere I have ever seen, and so it must be the easiest Jonkheere to see.

    Great report of John, and the reminiscences come up,

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    Great session and report John! Brought back memories from a few years ago when we used to climb a fence with my daughter every evening to get to our observing spot. It introduced needs for not just grab and go, but grab and climb setup, which was also 90mm frac on a basic Vixen AltAz mount.
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    A wonderful report, John! Thanks for sharing these experiences (new and older). I enjoyed the report very much!

    I have logged NGC 2420 only once almost 4 years ago. I think I shall have a revisit.
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    Very nice story on finding NGC 2420 with the C90 (Mak?) John!

    I got curious, so I looked up NGC 2420 and the sketch I made back in 2014 with my 114mm F/7.9 Newt in suburban skies. Picked up 8 members.

    Makes me want to take out my C90 Mak, which is a different beast than the orange C90 back in the day. Interesting that you used it as a deep-sky instrument, but there probably weren't too many portable grab-and-go options back then. Looking at my logs, I only used my C90 Mak twice to bag DSO's and they were both planetary nebula. Should try to use it more often, but I have so many scopes to choose from...
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    Great report John and a nice retrospective. I have yet to see 2420 so it goes on my list of things to see!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KT4HX View Post
    Excellent outing John. Lots of good objects, and the memories evoked by the view of NGC 2420. This cluster is an old familiar friend of mine, having observed it with various instruments over the years. My last observation of it was this past November from my backyard with the 12 inch dob, where I recorded as below. FYI, the comet I referred to in the comments is Comet 38P/Stephan-Oterma.

    NGC 2420 (Gemini, open cluster, mag=8.3, size=10.0’):

    East of the dim diamond of stars in which I found the comet, I easily spotted this pretty cluster and old friend. Observing at 84x only, it presented a small, compact dusting of upwards of 30 tiny diamonds crowded together in its small field. Seen at higher magnification it can be a stunning field, peppered with myriad stars. This one really deserves more attention from observers than it gets.
    Quote Originally Posted by j.gardavsky View Post
    Hello John, hello Alan,

    Gemini has got some amazing clusters, and other DSOs.
    Very true, as I have seen on 13th November also a close encounter between that 38P/Stephan-Oterma comet,
    but this time with the NGC 2420 open cluster, well known as L35 in the Levy List of comet masqueraders, ha, ha.

    And in Gemini is also the "easiest" Abell to see, the Medusa Nebula, even if there are no easy Abells to see at all.
    And if it were not enough, also the easiest Jonkheere, the Jonkheere 900 planetary nebula,
    the only Jonkheere I have ever seen, and so it must be the easiest Jonkheere to see.

    Great report of John, and the reminiscences come up,

    JG
    Funny that 2420 is on a list of masquarade comets, while a real comet passed 2420 not long ago. Hilarious! Good to learn there is more in there!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigzmey View Post
    Great session and report John! Brought back memories from a few years ago when we used to climb a fence with my daughter every evening to get to our observing spot. It introduced needs for not just grab and go, but grab and climb setup, which was also 90mm frac on a basic Vixen AltAz mount.
    Memories of observations together with your children, even though they did not adapt the hobby are precious. To my surprise my children found and find those memories, although adults now, as precious as I do.

    Quote Originally Posted by bladekeeper View Post
    A wonderful report, John! Thanks for sharing these experiences (new and older). I enjoyed the report very much!

    I have logged NGC 2420 only once almost 4 years ago. I think I shall have a revisit.
    It is a fine little cluster, with challenges from 90mm to 355mm.!

    Quote Originally Posted by terrynak View Post
    Very nice story on finding NGC 2420 with the C90 (Mak?) John!

    I got curious, so I looked up NGC 2420 and the sketch I made back in 2014 with my 114mm F/7.9 Newt in suburban skies. Picked up 8 members.

    Makes me want to take out my C90 Mak, which is a different beast than the orange C90 back in the day. Interesting that you used it as a deep-sky instrument, but there probably weren't too many portable grab-and-go options back then. Looking at my logs, I only used my C90 Mak twice to bag DSO's and they were both planetary nebula. Should try to use it more often, but I have so many scopes to choose from...
    It was the old orange C90 Maksutov indeed. I did not have a bigger telescope at that time, for I had sold my old C8 to finance something else. I always call it the lean years. As far as I can remember the old C90 showed the three brightest stars, as can be seen in the sketch

    Quote Originally Posted by helicon64 View Post
    Great report John and a nice retrospective. I have yet to see 2420 so it goes on my list of things to see!
    Any telescope will show you its own part of it. That is a nice thing about 2420.
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    Oops.......
    It seems that I had the date on the sketch wrong. So I corrected it, but Flickr can't find it any more in one go.
    So here it is:
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/169707...in/dateposted/
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