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    Default Sometimes You're the Windshield, Sometimes the Hammer



    August 5th, 2018

    Well, it was supposed to be trashy this evening, sky-wise, and after the thumping I took on the prior evening, I didn’t really mind a bit. But, as the evening progressed, things cleared off nicely and looked like I had something to work with.

    I was still leery of dragging out the 12”, and I was getting a bit tired of dragging out the AVX and doing some planetary imaging. Foregoing all that, I decided to do something I’ve been meaning to do for a while: bring out the Twilight II and mount both the Premium 80 and the C80 on there in tandem.

    That’s right, Milan! Two whizzpoppers!

    Both of these scopes have Vixen optics and are of a similar age, so they are a well-matched pair. While I enjoy the Premium 80 quite a bit, I’ve only employed the C80 one time since I’ve had it.

    I got all that done and goofed around a little more getting the finders aligned and what not. While trying to do the 6x30 straight through on the C80, though, I ran into trouble. This finder is actually part of the bracket, and to align it you have to adjust the screws that move the reticle around. Well, I couldn’t get the reticle to move where I needed it to.

    I made a command decision on the spot, pulled out a screwdriver, and removed the whole focuser from the scope. Back to the shed, I retrieved the Synta focuser that came with my ST80. It mated right up, of course, being a Synta tube and all. This then allowed me to mount a regular style 6x30 finder with “normal” aligned methods. Mo’ better.



    Back inside for a bit to let the twilight deepen, then back out for a bit to have a go at a couple of planets.

    1. Jupiter
    (Planet in Libra, mag -2.1, 99.1% illuminated)
    Observed: Aug 5, 2018 at 21:26:43
    Comment: The seeing is a-boil, but despite that, I can pick out several dark and light bands on the surface with the 9mm in the CP80. All four Galilean moons are visible. A similar view with the C80 and the 15mm, only a tad smaller. The seeing is mitigated in the C80 a little better due to lower power. Both scopes do exhibit a touch of CA, but it is quite mild and you really have to go looking for it. On the eastern side of the planet, I got Ganymede furthest out, then Io, and Europa closest in. On the western side, lone Callisto leading the charge.
    Location: Lowell, AR
    Equipment: Premium 80, GSO Super Plössl 9mm, C80, GSO Super Plössl 15mm

    2. Saturn
    (Planet in Sagittarius, mag 0.2, 99.9% illuminated)
    Observed: Aug 5, 2018 at 21:33:42
    Comment: The CP80 with the 9mm is displaying Saturn quite nicely. During flashes of steady air, the Cassini division in the rings is quite evident. There seem to be a few tiny little pinprick moons showing up at these times also. Titan was obvious, and maybe Tethys, Dione, and Rhea. At the C80, I swapped out the 15mm for the 8.8mm. I am seeing a similar view of planet and ring gap. Not so much the tiny pinpricks, but I’ll chalk that up to lesser diagonal too. Some subtle banding is present in both scopes, though the brighter image via the GSO diagonal shows this a hair better.
    Location: Lowell, AR
    Equipment: Premium 80, GSO Super Plössl 9mm, C80, ES 82° 8.8mm

    That done, I figured I’d head back inside and get properly accoutered for the rest of my session. I then kissed my wife and ventured back out to my pair of scopes.

    Still expecting the disgust and frustration I experience last night, I wasn’t quite sure about what to do for observing. I decided that I’d just continue my Messier quest with the Premium 80, and might as well drag along the C80 while I’m at it.

    Thumbing around in Sky Safari, I noted a few over Ursa Major way that wasn’t long for this season. It was a catch ‘em while you can situation. Well, let’s see what we can come up with.

    Sighting Phecda (γ Ursae Majoris) in the Rigel QuickFinder, I quickly landed on the spot for M109.

    3. Messier 109 - NGC 3992
    (Spiral Galaxy in Ursa Major, mag 9.8, size 7.6’ x 4.7’, SB 13.6 mag/arcmin²)
    Observed: Aug 5, 2018 at 21:52:57
    Comment: Well, not a quality view by any means, but I can see a subtle brightening at the galaxy’s location. I think I can pick it up in the C80 with the 26mm too, though that may be averted imagination.
    Location: Lowell, AR
    Equipment: Premium 80, KK Ortho 18mm, C80, Celestron Plössl 26mm

    I next slid down to Merak (β Ursae Majoris) and made a play for a lowering (and too low) M97 and M108, but try as I might, I simply could not shake this pair loose in either scope. Oh well. Later in the year then for these.

    Swinging back around to the south, I dove down into Scorpius to nail M4. Centering on (α Scorpii), I quickly located my glob in the RACI.

    4. Messier 4 - NGC 6121
    (Globular Cluster in Scorpius, mag 5.9, size 26.3’, Class IX)
    Observed: Aug 5, 2018 at 22:03:25
    Comment: This nice globular cluster is easily visible in both scopes. In each, it presents as a large pale grey and granular orb of soft light. I pushed the C80 up with the 15mm. I can pick out slightly more defined granularity. The glob does not possess an especially concentrated core.
    Location: Lowell, AR
    Equipment: Premium 80, KK Ortho 18mm, C80, Celestron Plössl 26mm, GSO Super Plössl 15mm

    Sliding down to Al Niyat (Ï„ Scorpii), I moved eastward and slightly south to my next target.

    5. Messier 62 - NGC 6266
    (Globular Cluster in Ophiuchus, mag 6.6, size 14.1’, Class IV)
    Observed: Aug 5, 2018 at 22:13:19
    Comment: A smaller globular cluster, but a much tighter core compared to M4. Both scopes display the glob quite well.
    Location: Lowell, AR
    Equipment: Premium 80, KK Ortho 18mm, C80, Celestron Plössl 26mm
    Jumping north almost 4°, I hit my next one.

    6. Messier 19 - NGC 6273
    (Globular Cluster in Ophiuchus, mag 6.8, size 13.5’, Class VIII)
    Observed: Aug 5, 2018 at 22:18:41
    Comment: Visually about the same size as M62, but the core is not quite as dense. This renders it a bit softer, though still quite easily discerned.
    Location: Lowell, AR
    Equipment: Premium 80, KK Ortho 18mm, C80, Celestron Plössl 26mm

    And since I was right there, I jumped eastward 1.75° to hopefully pick up another little glob.

    7. NGC 6293
    (Globular Cluster in Ophiuchus, mag 8.2, size 7.9’, Class IV)
    Observed: Aug 5, 2018 at 22:21:29
    Comment: Well, since I was in the area. In the left scope with the 18mm, a small and subtle orb of light, better with averted vision. In the right scope with the 26mm, a fuzzy stellar object that is helped greatly with averted vision.
    Location: Lowell, AR
    Equipment: Premium 80, KK Ortho 18mm, C80, Celestron Plössl 26mm

    Next, I worked my way southeast via 36, 43, and d Ophiuchi and picked up my next target via RACI.

    8. Butterfly Cluster - Messier 6 - NGC 6405
    (Open Cluster in Scorpius, mag 4.2, size 25’)
    Observed: Aug 5, 2018 at 22:24:45
    Comment: The familiar butterfly shape, or even a fox head as I sort of liken it to (though upside down), is readily apparent. Sharp silvery and golden pinpoints dot the field of view. The visual in both scopes is quite satisfying. I swapped out the 18mm in the CP80 for the 32mm. Just a fantastic view.
    Location: Lowell, AR
    Equipment: Premium 80, GSO Super Plössl 32mm, C80, Celestron Plössl 26mm

    Pushing further on in that direction, another easy RACI spot.

    9. Ptolemy's Cluster - Messier 7 - NGC 6475
    (Open Cluster in Scorpius, mag 3.3, size 80’)
    Observed: Aug 5, 2018 at 22:29:23
    Comment: Getting a bit low down into the murky light dome, but this fine open cluster is cutting through nicely. In both scopes, a loose and wide scattering of fine diamonds on dark grey velvet. Lovely.
    Location: Lowell, AR
    Equipment: Premium 80, KK Ortho 18mm, C80, Celestron Plössl 26mm

    Centering on Kaus Australis (ε Sagittarii), I moved northeast 2.5° to pick up HR 6960. From this star, I quickly located my next target.

    10. NGC 6652
    (Globular Cluster in Sagittarius, mag 8.9, size 3.5’, Class VI)
    Observed: Aug 5, 2018 at 22:33:24
    Comment: Back to the 18mm in the CP80. This little glob is quite a dim and subtle squeeze of light in this scope. Similarly, visible in the C80 with the 15mm.
    Location: Lowell, AR
    Equipment: Premium 80, KK Ortho 18mm, C80, GSO Super Plössl 15mm

    From there, just a quick skip to the northwest.

    11. Messier 69 - NGC 6637
    (Globular Cluster in Sagittarius, mag 7.7, size 7.1’, Class V)
    Observed: Aug 5, 2018 at 22:35:37
    Comment: Sitting near star HD 170500, this nice yet soft glow ball displays easily. A soft pinch of a core in the left scope at 51×, and a small little dust bunny in the right scope at 35×.
    Location: Lowell, AR
    Equipment: Premium 80, KK Ortho 18mm, C80, Celestron Plössl 26mm

    Push back to the east 2.5°, I swept up the next object in the area.

    12. Messier 70 - NGC 6681
    (Globular Cluster in Sagittarius, mag 8.1, size 7.8’, Class V)
    Observed: Aug 5, 2018 at 22:44:12
    Comment: Took me a bit to nail this one down as it was a bit more subtle than I anticipated. Small and a tad on the dimmer side, it seems to possess a tighter core in the CP80 and is a small fuzzy dot in the C80.
    Location: Lowell, AR
    Equipment: Premium 80, KK Ortho 18mm, C80, Celestron Plössl 26mm

    From M70, I moved to the northeast a hair over 3° to get to my next objective.

    13. Messier 54 - NGC 6715
    (Globular Cluster in Sagittarius, mag 7.7, size 9.1’, Class III)
    Observed: Aug 5, 2018 at 22:47:40
    Comment: Slid over to this glob via the 26mm in the C80. I can easily pick up a sharp fuzzy stellar globe with a dense core. At the CP80, a similar view though with a bit more halo on display. Man, this thing has a tight core on it.
    Location: Lowell, AR
    Equipment: Premium 80, KK Ortho 18mm, C80, Celestron Plössl 26mm

    Next, a big slide via RACI a little over 9.5°. I had to study the field a bit to finally pick this one up as I kept missing it.

    14. Messier 55 - NGC 6809
    (Globular Cluster in Sagittarius, mag 6.4, size 19’, Class XI)
    Observed: Aug 5, 2018 at 22:54:33
    Comment: Well this is a big ol’ soft rascal! First spotted in the right scope at 51× as a broad disk of subtle light. It is quite easy to lose but some movement and averted vision brings it back. A similar view in the left scope at 35×. Very large and very subtle!
    Location: Lowell, AR
    Equipment: Premium 80, KK Ortho 18mm, C80, Celestron Plössl 26mm

    Back to the RACI, I acquired a group of 4 brighter stars, c Sagittarii, b Sagittarii, 60 Sagittarii, and ω Sagittarii, and worked my way past these guys moving to the northeast to nail down the next object. I was just about into the tree limbs on this one.

    15. Messier 75 - NGC 6864
    (Globular Cluster in Sagittarius, mag 8.6, size 6.0’, Class I)
    Observed: Aug 5, 2018 at 22:59:45
    Comment: Not the easiest glob around in these scopes, though not terrible. Fuzzy stellar in the left scope with a tight core and close-in halo. In the right scope it is fuzzier stelliar and seemingly more concentrated.
    Location: Lowell, AR
    Equipment: Premium 80, KK Ortho 18mm, C80, Celestron Plössl 26mm

    Good enough. Getting back over to the Teapot, I centered Kaus Borealis (λ Sagittarii) in the Rigel, and move the short 40’ to the east to acquire my next one.

    16. NGC 6638
    (Globular Cluster in Sagittarius, mag 9.2, size 5.0’, Class VI)
    Observed: Aug 5, 2018 at 23:03:13
    Comment: A fairly easy spot with the 18mm as a small fuzzy nugget, and averted vision in the 26mm.
    Location: Lowell, AR
    Equipment: Premium 80, KK Ortho 18mm, C80, Celestron Plössl 26mm

    From 6638, a quick RACI slide to the northwest found my next field of view.

    17. Messier 28 - NGC 6626
    (Globular Cluster in Sagittarius, mag 6.9, size 11.2’, Class IV)
    Observed: Aug 5, 2018 at 23:05:32
    Comment: Easily picker-uppable in both scopes. Left, a fine fuzzy orb with a nice surrounding halo. Similar in the right though a hair smaller.
    Location: Lowell, AR
    Equipment: Premium 80, KK Ortho 18mm, C80, Celestron Plössl 26mm

    Jumping back to the east via RACI, I located a little knot of stars centered around 24 Sagittarii and easily picked up my next glob in the finder scope.

    18. Messier 22 - NGC 6656
    (Globular Cluster in Sagittarius, mag 5.2, size 24.0’, Class VII)
    Observed: Aug 5, 2018 at 23:07:02
    Comment: Bulls-eyed in the RACI and centered. Broad and granular in the 18mm with no real core density. A similar and pleasing view in the 26mm.
    Location: Lowell, AR
    Equipment: Premium 80, KK Ortho 18mm, C80, Celestron Plössl 26mm

    Wending back due west, I spotted my next target in the RACI as well.

    19. Lagoon Nebula - Messier 8 - NGC 6523
    (Bright Nebula in Sagittarius, mag 5.8, size 90’ x 40’)
    Observed: Aug 5, 2018 at 23:09:00
    Comment: Another RACI bulls-eye. Obvious nebulae in the 18mm surrounding the embedded cluster. Same in the 26mm. Of course, this is a reasonably decent binocular target too, so no worries with these scopes. Guiding the C80 around the field a bit I can pick up some bits of subtle brightening hither and yon. An enjoyable view.
    Location: Lowell, AR
    Equipment: Premium 80, KK Ortho 18mm, C80, Celestron Plössl 26mm

    A short slide to the north…

    20. Trifid Nebula - Messier 20 - NGC 6514
    (Bright Nebula in Sagittarius, mag 6.3, size 29’ x 27’)
    Observed: Aug 5, 2018 at 23:13:19
    Comment: Very subtle here. I believe, with the 26mm on the C80, and with averted vision, I can just make out a bifurcation between two of the Fids. The nebulae only stand out with averted vision. The effect is even more subtle with the higher power on the CP80. Pretty cool.
    Location: Lowell, AR
    Equipment: Premium 80, KK Ortho 18mm, C80, Celestron Plössl 26mm

    And a hair further…

    21. Messier 21 - NGC 6531
    (Open Cluster in Sagittarius, mag 5.9, size 13’)
    Observed: Aug 5, 2018 at 23:15:38
    Comment: A nice little knotty cluster. Well concentrated and separated from the field. I am picking up a few more stars with the 18mm over the 26mm. A fun fistful of stars to quietly observe.
    Location: Lowell, AR
    Equipment: Premium 80, KK Ortho 18mm, C80, Celestron Plössl 26mm

    From M21, I jumped northward and slightly west to pick up star HR 6704. Another quick push in that direction brought me to my next target.

    22. Messier 23 - NGC 6494
    (Open Cluster in Sagittarius, mag 5.5, size 27’)
    Observed: Aug 5, 2018 at 23:19:06
    Comment: Brilliant! Somebody knocked over the salt shaker. I like the view via the ortho better as the background is darker, better contrast, and more available jewels to take in. Reasonably concentrated and separated from the field. An excellent cluster worthy of anyone’s attention.
    Location: Lowell, AR
    Equipment: Premium 80, KK Ortho 18mm, C80, Celestron Plössl 26mm

    Back straight east about 5° landed me in the midst of a busy star field.

    23. Sagittarius Star Cloud - Messier 24 - IC 4715
    (Open Cluster in Sagittarius, mag 4.59, size 120’ x 60”)
    Observed: Aug 5, 2018 at 23:22:32
    Comment: A repeat from Friday evening. The 26mm shines here and pulls in the bulk of the loosely scattered, yet well populated OC.
    Location: Lowell, AR
    Equipment: Premium 80, KK Ortho 18mm, C80, Celestron Plössl 26mm

    Pushing further east about 3°, I easily hit my next guy in the RACI.

    24. Messier 25 - IC 4725
    (Open Cluster in Sagittarius, mag 4.6, size 32’)
    Observed: Aug 5, 2018 at 23:24:24
    Comment: RACI bulls-eye. A nice view in both scopes though the 18mm does it more justice. A velvety dark background and many diamonds of varying magnitudes scattered loosely on the field.
    Location: Lowell, AR
    Equipment: Premium 80, KK Ortho 18mm, C80, Celestron Plössl 26mm

    Sliding back over to M24, I jumped northward to catch my next victim.

    25. Messier 18 - NGC 6613
    (Open Cluster in Sagittarius, mag 6.9, size 9’)
    Observed: Aug 5, 2018 at 23:30:18
    Comment: My little duck foot again. Good views in both scopes of the loose and slightly sparse OC.
    Location: Lowell, AR
    Equipment: Premium 80, KK Ortho 18mm, C80, Celestron Plössl 26mm

    And further up and further in, another easy RACI pickup.

    26. Omega Nebula - Messier 17 - NGC 6618
    (Bright Nebula in Sagittarius, mag 6.0, size 46’ x 37’)
    Observed: Aug 5, 2018 at 23:33:12
    Comment: Easy nebulosity. I am picking up an inverted swan shape (though the head and neck are very subtle). The central bar is nicely displayed. In the 26mm, a bit more oval in appearance though the swan may still be seen.
    Location: Lowell, AR
    Equipment: Premium 80, KK Ortho 18mm, C80, Celestron Plössl 26mm

    Again, climbing a bit higher…

    27. Eagle Nebula - Messier 16 - NGC 6611
    (Bright Nebula in Serpens, mag 6.0, size 35’ x 28’)
    Observed: Aug 5, 2018 at 23:36:40
    Comment: Subtle nebulosity in the KK, but I can almost pick out a rough eagle-ish shape if I pretend hard enough. The overall star field bends and curves away from the nebula as a backward S shape. Loving the contrast put up by the ortho.
    Location: Lowell, AR
    Equipment: Premium 80, KK Ortho 18mm, C80, Celestron Plössl 26mm

    From M16, I made a big RACI leap to sweep up ζ Scuti and slide eastward to grab Ionnina (α Scuti) and drop slightly southeast for δ and ε Scuti. Pushing just slightly southeast of δ, I found my next object.

    28. Messier 26 - NGC 6694
    (Open Cluster in Scutum, mag 8.0, size 15’)
    Observed: Aug 5, 2018 at 23:40:16
    Comment: This is a concentrated little rat. A somewhat orb-like fist of stars. I am supposing the dimmer diamonds in the midst are lending an almost nebulous appearance to the cluster. In the 26mm, it almost looks like a loose glob with a foreground star superimposed.
    Location: Lowell, AR
    Equipment: Premium 80, KK Ortho 18mm, C80, Celestron Plössl 26mm

    From M26, a quick hop up to β Scuti, and dropping south to HR 7083, my next target popped into view in the finder scope.

    29. Wild Duck Cluster - Messier 11 - NGC 6705
    (Open Cluster in Scutum, mag 5.8, size 14’)
    Observed: Aug 5, 2018 at 23:43:18
    Comment: Gorgeous no matter the scope utilized! Both present a tight concentration of diamond dust, broader and bright. Granular yet resolvable throughout. I just love this OC.
    Location: Lowell, AR
    Equipment: Premium 80, KK Ortho 18mm, C80, Celestron Plössl 26mm

    Getting late on a work night, so one more target to round off the night.

    30. Mars
    (Planet in Capricornus, mag -2.7, 99.2% illuminated)
    Observed: Aug 5, 2018 at 23:46:42
    Comment: Going with the 9mm in the CP80 and the 8.8mm with the C80. A cantaloupe colored disk is present. Darker features are quite subtle in the 9mm. With the 8.8mm, a nicely defined polar cap seems to be evident on the bottom limb of the disk. I do not see this with the 9mm, or maybe I do but it is not quite as defined.
    Location: Lowell, AR
    Equipment: Premium 80, GSO Super Plössl 9mm, C80, ES 82° 8.8mm

    Once Mars was in the books, I closed up shop. Since I’d gone minimalist on this evening, it took me less than 10 minutes to put things away and lock up. Back inside to hammer out my report.

    And now it is way too late and I shall be quite zombie-fried in the morning, but I’ll say it’s worth it.

    I enjoyed that season immensely! Slow methodical star hopping, no hurry, just relaxed plodding along. Of course, the targets were fairly easy, but somewhat of a challenge considering the aperture. Plus, it was fun to pair two sister scopes together and see how they compared to each other. I’d say they were pretty much neck and neck, performance-wise. The better diagonal on the Premium 80 gave it a slight advantage over the C80 with a stock Synta diagonal, but even then you’d be hard pressed to pick a winner.

    That’s all I’ve got. I need to go to sleep now. I should have a fun and stressful day tomorrow even with enough sleep. Heck, I may be grouchy tomorrow.

    Peace and clear skies friends. Apologies for the typos. I’m not gonna proofread this one.
    Bryan
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    Default Re: Sometimes You're the Windshield, Sometimes the Hammer

    You were definitely the windshield last night, Bryan! Great session and report.

    I quite often enjoy backing off the hallowed aperture for making seemingly everything easier. Dana and I are heading to the Colorado River overlook at Nelson's Landing (I know you know the spot.) next weekend to take in the meteor shower. I'll be taking a couple of 80mm scopes along... easy-peezy to set-up/tear down.

    Thanks for the well-written report and congrats on a great session.

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    Default Re: Sometimes You're the Windshield, Sometimes the Hammer

    A real nice mini-Messier marathon.
    Seems like your sky may have strained some of the bigger chunks from the pea soup.
    With hopes, your weather is heading my way.

    And I have a cure for that work stuff...
    Don't go!
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    Sounds like a great summer session, Bryan!!! Great read. I'm intrigued though you chose to view with two 80mm with identical focal lengths scopes on the same mount rather than one of the larger / faster ones instead. Still, a good comparison with the two 80 and 80C to see how each performs optically though.
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    You in the middle of a small aperture Messier run? That can be an enjoyable endeavor as a diversion from primary goals, most definitely. Nice evening Bryan.
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    Hello Bryan,

    that's a great sightseeing tour of the Best Of Saggitarius & Co!
    Exactly that sort of observing session I would love to do again, and again, and again.

    Thank you for the great report, and clear skies,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowjiber View Post
    You were definitely the windshield last night, Bryan! Great session and report.

    I quite often enjoy backing off the hallowed aperture for making seemingly everything easier. Dana and I are heading to the Colorado River overlook at Nelson's Landing (I know you know the spot.) next weekend to take in the meteor shower. I'll be taking a couple of 80mm scopes along... easy-peezy to set-up/tear down.

    Thanks for the well-written report and congrats on a great session.

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    A real nice mini-Messier marathon.
    Seems like your sky may have strained some of the bigger chunks from the pea soup.
    With hopes, your weather is heading my way.

    And I have a cure for that work stuff...
    Don't go!
    Thanks, Jim! Been a fun day so far...

    Quote Originally Posted by Davesellars View Post
    Sounds like a great summer session, Bryan!!! Great read. I'm intrigued though you chose to view with two 80mm with identical focal lengths scopes on the same mount rather than one of the larger / faster ones instead. Still, a good comparison with the two 80 and 80C to see how each performs optically though.
    Thanks a bunch, Dave!

    I really wanted to see if the optics in each were on par with each other, plus they look really cool mounted side by side.

    Quote Originally Posted by KT4HX View Post
    You in the middle of a small aperture Messier run? That can be an enjoyable endeavor as a diversion from primary goals, most definitely. Nice evening Bryan.
    Thanks, my friend! Yeah, been working on that pursuit for a little while now. Loads of fun. I need to try it with the 60mm too.

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    Exactly that sort of observing session I would love to do again, and again, and again.

    Thank you for the great report, and clear skies,

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    OMG, Bryan, instead of one whizzy popper now you have two gassy giants! It's like you're just doing this to spite me! You're.. not actually... right??
    Stop it with the gassy Messier marathons already and get to work, soldier! It is crucial to the welfare of our society! That includes to a great degree my mental health, cuz you're driving me crazy!
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    Great bunch of refractor targets Bryan, your setup is impressive! I may need to make a dew shield like that for my 9x50.
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    Quote Originally Posted by milanpicard View Post
    OMG, Bryan, instead of one whizzy popper now you have two gassy giants! It's like you're just doing this to spite me! You're.. not actually... right??
    Stop it with the gassy Messier marathons already and get to work, soldier! It is crucial to the welfare of our society! That includes to a great degree my mental health, cuz you're driving me crazy!
    There, instead of using my time on the forum to write an own report, I am trying to save you! Repent, and thou shall be saved!!
    Be careful there, bubba, or I'll mail one of them to you.

    Read my report from the prior evening and you'll see why I went with the fracs on this night, Milan.

    I shall repent only when the sky does. We are presently having a stare-down contest. I think I am losing.

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    Great bunch of refractor targets Bryan, your setup is impressive! I may need to make a dew shield like that for my 9x50.
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