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    Default A hard match with Perseus



    If these observing nights are like matches in a long, hard championship, last night was definitely a hard match. I took my 8dob to the west end of my south facing balcony to be able to get a glimpse at Perseus, right above almost. The problem with this maneouvre was that the eyepiece faced towards the railing, and there was no place for me to squeeze between. So I had to do some more acrobatics, leaning over the tube and peering inside the thing. After half an hour I was physically tired and aching. :P

    But I did have some galaxies to catch, four actually. The first was actually at the tail of Andromeda: Bryan's famous NGC 891. I had to see it, it's H400. I avoided it until now cuz Bryan gave it such bad press. Arriving to the place, after 10 minutes of changing eyepieces, shielding from lights and counting minuscule star-patterns in the vicinity I could finally discern some lil greying in averted vision. Well, score then! Phew!

    Getting into Perseus, I put the FOV on the Spiral Cluster M34, cuz that was the anchor point for all my searches. Two FOVs to the left was an open cluster NGC 956. Ok, easy. But the galaxy NGC 1003 gave me such hard time, finally at the base of a triangle of lil stars I saw some greying in averted vision, veeery faint.

    NGC 1058 was the same caliber, nothing at the beginning, nothing after, but finally with some bribe money it showed something in averted vision.

    But the worst was NGC 949. I arrived there, and nothing. I saw the three starlets, one on one side, two on the others, above which it should be. Stars there, galaxy nothing. Every trick in 10mm, nothing but laughter. So I got really mad cuz I was aching all over already, and put in the 6mm! Sometimes desperation works. With a darkened background I was able to pick out two or three times some averted greying in the same spot. "Tis some visitor, I muttered, only this, and nothing more." Do you think I will revisit that dastardly galaxy? "Quoth the raven: nevermore!"

    But I did see a -8 mag iridium flare at twilight, from Iridium 41, that was pretty nice. I am having such fun with those things, thanks, Bryan, for letting me know!
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    Default Re: A hard match with Perseus

    Good job Milan. Next time try tying yourself to the railing so you can hang off the outside to reach the eyepiece!

    That's funny, I never knew Princess Andromeda had a tail? I bet that was a turnoff for Perseus!
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    Default Re: A hard match with Perseus

    Nice catches, Milan!

    I need to try 891 again. I think October of 2015 was the last time I cared to tangle with that one.
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    Default Re: A hard match with Perseus

    Nice report, milan!

    I've tried several times to get NGC 891, with no success. I've tried with my 12" dob from my driveway, my back yard, using a hood, squinting real hard, and even with my tongue hanging out like a hot puppy. But to no avail. And here you catch it with an 8" dob, on a balcony, while leaned over the wrong side of the telescope, and your eye barely able to even reach the eyepiece. Showoff! :P

    Just kidding. Great job!

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    Default Re: A hard match with Perseus

    Quote Originally Posted by bladekeeper View Post
    Nice catches, Milan!

    I need to try 891 again. I think October of 2015 was the last time I cared to tangle with that one.
    NGC 891 is a squirrely one. When I was using the Z10 most of the time, it was a real tough nut from my suburban back yard. But even at the dark site, though easier to see, its not like it really impressed me either. One day I need to turn the 17.5 on it at the dark site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by starlogborg View Post
    Nice report, milan!

    I've tried several times to get NGC 891, with no success. I've tried with my 12" dob from my driveway, my back yard, using a hood, squinting real hard, and even with my tongue hanging out like a hot puppy. But to no avail. And here you catch it with an 8" dob, on a balcony, while leaned over the wrong side of the telescope, and your eye barely able to even reach the eyepiece. Showoff! :P

    Just kidding. Great job!
    Well, shoot, there's your trouble right there! An experienced galaxy hunter should know that faint edge-on needles require you to touch your tongue on the tip of your nose and go cross-eyed. No panting!
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    Funny you should mention panting. Every time I try to cover my head with a T-shirt with a black t-shirt it works for the first few seconds. Then I breathe and many times it all fogs up the eyepiece! Even if I try to breathe downwards What can I do? Use a pipe to breathe in??
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    Nice one, had to smile at astrobatics
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    Quote Originally Posted by milanpicard View Post
    Funny you should mention panting. Every time I try to cover my head with a T-shirt with a black t-shirt it works for the first few seconds. Then I breathe and many times it all fogs up the eyepiece! Even if I try to breathe downwards What can I do? Use a pipe to breathe in??
    I've had this trouble as well. To mitigate, don't pull the t-shirt too far over you head, just enough to block the stray light from your peripheral vision. And, you gotta leave a little bit of an air outlet.

    I've got in the habit of exhaling out of the right side of my mouth, down and away from the eyepiece. I try to leave that area of the towel/t-shirt open as much as possible. That works great for me.

    Sometimes I'll take several deep breathes before diving in so I don't have to exhale as much, especially on the really faint stuff.

    And I can always tell when I slip up and forget cause I have to just sit back and wait for the eyepiece to clear up.
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    Default Re: A hard match with Perseus

    What are you talking guys? NGC891 is easy with 8". This is because you are using wrong scopes, you need SCT

    Here are my notes from last August: NGC891 – H1 – Glx Sb – Silver sliver - this is special - relatively large and bright, sharp edge-on. 11.7’ length, but only 1.6’ wide. Well defined in 36mm (56x).

    It was from dark site, though. Sorry, couldn't resist bragging

    I do feel you pain, Milan. Hunting galaxies from LPed location is really challenging. Once the brighter ones all logged the process becomes slow and painful, but still satisfying since you pushing your skills and equipment to the limit and learning in the process.

 

 
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