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    Default The Joys of GoTo make my Wife an Astronomer



    OK, the title might be going a little far - but maybe not.

    Last evening I got home a bit on the late side, but earlier than I frequently am. One of the first things my wife says is that she figures I'm going to likely use the ETX-125PE. Kind of odd since I've really only had it out once and only used Saturn as a target since it was convenient.

    But my wife has commented that the telescope looks good. Net effect is that I get the very strong understanding that my wife is trying to get me to haul the thing out so that she can use it - and she really hasn't been much into astronomy.

    So I hauled the telescope out, finally got it aligned on a couple of stars (first time for that), got Saturn in the scope and then got my wife outside.

    From there on it was pretty much my rather non-techie wife's handset and eyepiece. I go inside to eat and she is outside finding targets like Albireo, the Trifid Nebula, M13, M92, etc. Every now and again she comes to ask me a question (did I mention that she's not really techie and not really into astronomy?) or to haul me out to look at M92 or something else. M92 was beautifully positioned so that I could get her to look at a nearby star and have M92 pop into all its glory - and she really learned that averted vision works!

    Although she had literally never taken it out to use, she has been calling the Orion XT8 "her" telescope. But after we've hauled the ETX inside she tells me that the ETX is a better telescope because it finds things for her. Of course I point out that the aperture doesn't compare well at all. . .

    The point is that GoTo can take someone marginally interested in astronomy and enhance that interest to where they'll go out and observe when they'd otherwise not do so at all.

    I think my wife is going to claim the ETX as "hers". I think she'll let me borrow it sometimes, though.

    Oh, and seeing was pretty good and the optics on the ETX-125 were pretty good as well. Used the Celestron zoom, however, and I was kind of disappointed at how things got funky near the edge of the FOV even with a rather slow telescope.

    With my wife getting more interested in observing I may have to get another Hyperion Zoom. . . Not cheap, but worth it.
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    Great thread

    I'm very happy to hear it made her an astronomer

    Maybe I need to setup the goto again with the handcontroller and just do some viewing one night

    I agree to that, especially people that are very busy (work etc). I wish I had the time to view the heavens for hours every night (and sleep in in the morning), but unfortunately I don't so when I view or image its a shotgun approach.

    Also would have to say my wife (and every casual observer) said that big lightbuckets show amazing details, but the annoyance of the object tracking during viewing at high magnifications is just too annoying for some.
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    This post gives me hope!! My wife is not very interested in astronomy right now as well..... But, as what happened in your case, a goto scope may be the ticket to pique her interest. Thanks for the "inspiration" OleCuss!!
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    So what did you say she's on....I'd like to get some for my wife.
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    Very impressed with you OleCuss...you ole smoothy you..
    Pretending not to be interested and her outside slewing around like nobody's business...
    You will really know when she is interested, when you come home and find she has hauled the rig out herself and done a perfect 2 star alignment..
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    That's Great OleCuss! Very Slick, and she thinks it's her idea! Really, that is wonderful, as you both can share the stars and the fun. I'm hoping my wife will do the same.
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    That's awesome! My wife and I enjoy many interests together but astronomy isn't one of them. Maybe I need to try the "GoTo" approach instead of the "straight on" approach!!

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    I sense a bit of chauvinistic astronomerisation here.

    I have to say that most of us are not as "scientifically bent" - but don't you dare to be paternalistic -or you'll get a 2" Wide angle EP thrust where the sun don't shine! (that'll give you averted vision for a while, I can assure you!)
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    JC - you make me laugh! But seriously, my wife has taken courses on computer matters that she frequently comes to me to fix - even though I have no training on it. She can do technical stuff but she's not a techie and would happily admit such. She has also spent several decades putting the boot onto the idea of buying astronomical equipment because it was a waste of time and money. Well, I basically told her that I was going to pursue the matter anyway.

    Net effect is that you could argue that up until just months ago she was actively anti-astronomy.

    But guys, last night really was her idea. It wasn't mine. I was tired and hungry and really didn't want to drag out a telescope when I wanted food and sleep considerably more.

    But it was clear to me that she really wanted to use that telescope and I'd be a fool to ignore that desire.

    Part of it is that the telescope really does look pretty good.

    Part of it is that the telescope is of a size which she will not find intimidating (she doesn't quite come to 5 foot tall). You put her up against the 10 inch LX200 and she is looking up at the thing even with the tripod down as far as it will go.

    She has never hinted that she wanted me to haul out one of the big telescopes for her to look through it even though they are clearly more capable machines. Oh, she has been happy to come out from time to time and take a quick peak through the eyepiece at something, but she has never before taken control of the telescope and done any hunting for anything or spent any significant time studying an object.

    Thinking about this as the day has gone on has made me think that I got it partially wrong in my OP. What made my wife act like an amateur astronomer (I think acting like one makes her one, but what do I know?) was much more multi-factorial than I implied:

    1. The heavens are beautiful. She has seen some of this in the past through the eyepieces of bigger telescopes and that likely contributed very significantly.

    2. In preparation for public viewing events I am writing up some single page guides to some of the more popular astronomical sights/objects. The idea is to use a music stand with a page on the left telling a bit about the telescope itself, and on the right one telling about the object being viewed (red LED booklights to light them). Well, after showing her M13 through the LX200 I gave her a page about M13 and she liked it. Net effect is that in some sense I made the celestial object more contextually real and (because I wrote it) more personal. I think it worked well for her.

    3. Having a telescope which she can easily physically handle and which she thinks looks good/cute really matters. Frankly, it matters to me as well, but not quite as much as it matters to her.

    4. GoTo. This means that the activity is very accessible to her despite not having studied astronomy over the years. She doesn't have to be nudging the telescope to keep it in the FOV, she doesn't have to learn the constellations or how to star-hop, etc. If I set the thing up she only has to select the object and tell the telescope to go to the object.

    5. This is probably the smallest part of last night, but there may have been a sense of ownership. Last night was sort of a first light for that telescope. I'd hauled it out before in order to get it all set up but due to time constraints had never actually aligned it or had more than a brief look at Saturn with it. That means that the telescope has not been labeled in her mind as mine and she can then think of it more as hers.

    6. The other part that likely enhanced her interest was the fact that I really didn't have enough interest in observing last night to haul out the telescope. But when she suggested it I hauled it out for her and once I had gotten the basic set up I put her in charge. People like it when you do stuff for them and they're in charge of the outcome.

    It was a golden opportunity last night and I'm glad I went a little out of my way to give her the opportunity to own the skies.
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    Oh, that's alright then, *glassy eyed stare* if you say so.
    I don't like dobs either - which is why I went for the lx90 8" - I can handle it easy enough and it points where I want it to.
    Much like a guy, it goes where its told and does what is required of it and kinda looks nice too.
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