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    Default Nice opinion piece on "Starlink and it’s implications"



    Last edited by j.gardavsky; 06-09-2019 at 08:41 PM.
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    Default Re: Nice opinion piece on Starlink and it’s implications

    it all sounds pretty creepy to me . world internet controlled by who ?
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    Default Re: Nice opinion piece on Starlink and it’s implications

    Here's another opinion about a hidden agenda that I thought was interesting:

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/scien...ars-space-news

    This is unconfirmed but I will keep it in the back of my mind.
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    Default Re: Nice opinion piece on Starlink and it’s implications

    Thanks for the replies. May I make a request of the moderators? I’m getting the impression that someone is “correcting” my titles to inappropriate use of apostrophes. Can someone please change it back to the correct “Starlink and its implications”? Thanks
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    Default Re: Nice opinion piece on "Starlink and it’s implications"

    Hello Rocdoc,

    I don't know what did happen to the title of your thread, but any edit by anyone is visible on the footnote line.

    We still don't have an upload filter like some other forums (in Germany), where they scan the texts aginst violations of the rules,
    and where they check the pics on copyright and similar before you can post them. That's the hell about the Article 13 in Germany.

    O.K., I have made the edit, let me know if you like it,

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    Default Re: Nice opinion piece on "Starlink and it’s implications"

    perhaps there comes a time when astronomy too will have a PETA - People for the Ethical Treatment of Astronomy. (not really a joke.)


    As I've stated before elsewhere regarding this idiot and his ideas, if people are so economically disadvantaged then where will they get the money for the devices to link to the net? What will they do with such access? Buy educational services? Buy things? In many instances such people will need to learn the English language - or Chinese and that is simply not effective over the net. Who will pay for access to the system as well, a friendly ISP? Not really thought through by either musk or the team - which does give credence to the second article....
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    Default Re: Nice opinion piece on "Starlink and it’s implications"

    Quote Originally Posted by michaelc^^ View Post
    perhaps there comes a time when astronomy too will have a PETA - People for the Ethical Treatment of Astronomy. (not really a joke.)


    As I've stated before elsewhere regarding this idiot and his ideas, if people are so economically disadvantaged then where will they get the money for the devices to link to the net? What will they do with such access? Buy educational services? Buy things? In many instances such people will need to learn the English language - or Chinese and that is simply not effective over the net. Who will pay for access to the system as well, a friendly ISP? Not really thought through by either musk or the team - which does give credence to the second article....
    I thought Musk made it clear that this is meant to generate money for his Mars endeavors in the first place and who knows to get high speed internet to the Teslas. I don't recall this being a philanthropic initiative. Well of course that would help for acceptance.
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    Default Re: Nice opinion piece on "Starlink and it’s implications"

    one of the things I do respond to is the apparent 'justification' of actions by creating the rhetoric that this is for the good of the people (Ibsen?). If this is for TESLA and his dream of getting to Mars, that is all well and good, but trying to sell the idea by apparently being concerned for others and their needs seems somewhat dishonest. Opinion only of course.
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