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    Default Re: Best Binoculars for Beginner?



    For Binos Magnification is not that important you want a nice wide field of view , I hardly ever use them on planets but great for DSO's , I have 4 pairs now a 15x70 , 10x50 (my first pair) and my most used an old but great 7x50 , the other pair is for game views etc a 10x25.
    Remember the higher magnification and the larger the aperture then you will need a mount ,I have tried 25x100 on a mount fantastic , thats what I will get next but they are massive and heavy! so will need a better mount than the one for my 15x70's
    Oh forgot to add for Astronomy get the best you can afford HD ones are great but expensive , the really cheap ones that work ok for day observing dont work for astronomy
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    Default Re: Best Binoculars for Beginner?

    Quote Originally Posted by thevoyager View Post
    What about something more magbnified in? 20X50?
    You will have to think about a mount, it is more than weight that will necessitate this. Any magnification above 10x will need a mount. If you are unwilling to get a mount then only consider 10x or less, and the name of the game for binocular viewing (or MOST astronomical viewing) is NOT about magnification. However, regardless of the magnification or the weight of the binoculars, you WILL see more with them mounted.

    I am unaware (I haven't looked into them and would not be interested in them for myself) of any manufacturer making any dedicated 20x50s, there may be some. Stay away from variable magnification binoculars for astronomy purposes.

    A set of 20x80s may be a good choice for you (they would HAVE to be mounted) and they can show you MANY things. These can also usually be found quite affordably. However these affordable (as well as most "affordable") binoculars are notorious for having poor collimation. If you buy them from a reputable dealer and they suffer from poor collimation, you can return them or collimate them yourself (easy to do) but this will void the warranty and really should not be needed on a new pair. If you purchase from elsewhere, you may run the risk of not being able to return them.

    We can probably give you better advice if you found a pair you were interested in and provide us a link to them.
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    Default Re: Best Binoculars for Beginner?

    Any good reputable dealers? I understand some of them can't compete with online prices on ebya and amazon etc, but some of them are probably on there?

    I think £100 is a good figure... I understand people saying 10x50 to start out but I don't want to get bored and have to repeat purchases in 3 months.

    20X80 or 25x70? Which would be the better one you think?

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    Default Re: Best Binoculars for Beginner?

    20x80 hmm ... 80 dollars ... a bit more expensive. Is the difference really weighty?

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    Default Re: Best Binoculars for Beginner?

    Well, you can't get a good refractor for $80. And here we are talking about two refractors aligned. Economy of scale helps, so your $$ buys a bit more in case of binos. Still, you have to pay to get a good quality product.

    10x50 and 20x80 are two different instruments which serve different purposes. I didn't stop using 10x50 because I got 15x70.

    Between 20x80 and 25x70, 20x80 will gather a bit more light so it will be more beneficial under dark skies. 25x70 has small exit pupil, which would provide you better contrast if you are observing from a light polluted location. The differences between two are relatively small, so either will serve the purpose.

    Just consider that they will be much heavier than 10x50 with narrower field of view. So, it will be harder to keep them steady, and it will be harder to find the targets. But you will see more details in some targets and fainter targets with 20x80 compared to 10x50.
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    Default Re: Best Binoculars for Beginner?

    Quote Originally Posted by thevoyager View Post
    Any good reputable dealers? I understand some of them can't compete with online prices on ebya and amazon etc, but some of them are probably on there?

    I think £100 is a good figure... I understand people saying 10x50 to start out but I don't want to get bored and have to repeat purchases in 3 months.

    20X80 or 25x70? Which would be the better one you think?
    Possibly one of these, I would probably prefer the 15x70s but wouldn't consider 25x70s. The 20x80s are popular. Either of these will have to be mounted.

    https://www.rothervalleyoptics.co.uk...inoculars.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by thevoyager View Post
    Any good reputable dealers? I understand some of them can't compete with online prices on ebya and amazon etc, but some of them are probably on there?

    I think £100 is a good figure... I understand people saying 10x50 to start out but I don't want to get bored and have to repeat purchases in 3 months.
    From what I've seen, quality binos have a pretty good resale value, so if you did get bored with 10x50s, you could sell them and upgrade. I think something that relative newcomers don't realize is that astro equipment tends to multiply. I think most people have multiple pairs of binos, multiple scopes, multiple mounts. It's like a toolbox - few people own only one screwdriver. YMMV and I might be slightly out of my mind since it's been a difficult week...

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    Those 20x80s do look fine!

    Might go for them.

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    Is Collimation / Collmination something to worry about?

    Either from ordering from supplier or being driven in a van long term? I am travelling you see, and the binos will be in constant transport around SPain.

 

 
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