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    Question Choosing an Astrophotography telescope+mount



    Hello everyone! I've recently purchased a camera and have been practicing some minor astrophotography but know I need a better scope and tracking mount for good photos. I believe I've found a good scope(The Orion 8297 8-Inch f/3.9 Newtonian Astrograph Reflector for $460 or the 10" version $650) but am struggling to find the right mount. My overall budget is $800, does anyone know of a good mount for that price? (Preferably with GoTo)

    PS. Obviously if possible I'd love to go under the budget
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    Default Re: Choosing an Astrophotography telescope+mount

    Either telescope will be pushing the limits of a EQ-5 class mount without any camera gear on it so at a minimum I would say EQ-6 and bigger such as the Orion Atlas, you would be looking at the used market for $800USD though.
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    Default Re: Choosing an Astrophotography telescope+mount

    Some have gotten away with an 8 inch newt on an eq5/Orion Sirius. I would recommend the Orion Atlas or eq6r even moreso for a mount. Neither of these will support the 10” very well.
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    Default Re: Choosing an Astrophotography telescope+mount

    I believe you are looking at the issue from wrong end. For AP the most important thing is a good mount, the scope is secondary (to some degree )

    Scopes you are considering (8-10") require heavy duty and very expensive mounts.

    Start with mount you can afford and match scope to the mount.

    If you like 8-10" scope for visual (and who wan't ) you will be better off getting 8"-10" DOB as a dedicated visual scope and 80mm APO refractor on AVX for AP.
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    Default Re: Choosing an Astrophotography telescope+mount

    Unless you get a VERY good deal on a used mount, you will be limited to an AVX (or similar) which will not support such a large scope. If you go the 80mm ED refractor route, you can get very good results on an AVX without having to worry with collimation and coma correctors. If you're thinking one scope for visual and AP, you will be bored while the imaging is going on and you'll find you want a second visual scope anyway.
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    Default Re: Choosing an Astrophotography telescope+mount

    The bottom line here, just cutting to the chace, getting right to and saying it like its ..theres no such thing as a budget when you start talking astronomy.
    Welcome ,regards Phill
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    Default Re: Choosing an Astrophotography telescope+mount

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozypic View Post
    The bottom line here, just cutting to the chace, getting right to and saying it like its ..theres no such thing as a budget when you start talking astronomy.
    Welcome ,regards Phill
    Except, perhaps, a blown budget
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    Default Re: Choosing an Astrophotography telescope+mount

    I think Bigzmey and Ozman have hit the nail on the head here. If astro is a goal you only have to look at the Astrophotography forum to see many fantastic images taken with much smaller scopes than 8 or 10" instruments.

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    Default Re: Choosing an Astrophotography telescope+mount

    If you are good you can indeed use an AVX with an 8" Newt. Check out geethq's threads (http://www.astronomyforum.net/search...archid=8520526). His images are amazing and taken with an 8" on an AVX. You will need a coma corrector such as the Baader 2" Mk III so you are looking at $900 + $200 absolute minimum. Without a guide scope the quality of said images will not be achievable so add another $400 for that but so the real minimum is $1500.
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    Default Re: Choosing an Astrophotography telescope+mount

    Quote Originally Posted by CamelHat View Post
    If you are good you can indeed use an AVX with an 8" Newt. Check out geethq's threads (http://www.astronomyforum.net/search...archid=8520526). His images are amazing and taken with an 8" on an AVX. You will need a coma corrector such as the Baader 2" Mk III so you are looking at $900 + $200 absolute minimum. Without a guide scope the quality of said images will not be achievable so add another $400 for that but so the real minimum is $1500.
    What Henk says here and what the others above have said is spot on. If you go with the other option (AVX + 80mm APO refractor) it is still going to be $1500 as the rock bottom price. And both of these options don't even take into account that you need a computer to run the whole thing.

    So if you are serious about starting deep sky object (DSO) AP to get quality images and you're sure this is what you want to do, then find a way to set aside $2000. If your beginning AP fund contains that amount then you will have seriously decreased the amount of headaches and frustrations because you will have the correct gear to do the job correctly.

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