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    Default Better eyepieces make stars look like jewels



    The weather and skies were perfect last night for viewing so was out taking a look at the various open clusters around Cygnus. I have a low cost telescope which came with cheap Huygens EP's and recently replaced one with a 10mm Plossl. Wow, what a difference! The stars I looked at were so much sharper and I could easily see the colour where before I had trouble detecting the colours, even on the bright stars.

    But I do like looking at clusters. The stars in clusters look like brilliant jewels when you look at them through a telescope, especially with the new EP. It was the first time I was looking at the clusters in Cygnus.

    Saturn too was so much better, was able to clearly see the gap between the rings and the planet as well as a bit of the shadow where before, I actually had difficulty using an equivalent Huygens EP.

    Tried to find M56 and M57 around Lyra too but had no luck. Really need to upgrade my scope as it may not be capable of seeing these things

    Oh well, will enjoy what I can see and upgrade my other EP's until I can afford something better.
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    Better EP's can help the view on any scope. What scope are you using? Enjoy the views as I like the Open clusters and doubles myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigjack View Post
    Better EP's can help the view on any scope. What scope are you using? Enjoy the views as I like the Open clusters and doubles myself.
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    It's an Omega Reflector, a 3" newtonian with a 700mm focal length. If you want to see the exact same scope and specs, Orion and Skywatcher sell the exact same scope. Orion as the Spaceprobe 3 Alt-Az and Skywatcher as BK 767AZ1. My wife bought it for me at an educational store (hence the non-brand name) as a surprise. The base OTA doesn't seem too bad but the Alt-Az tripod sucks and the fine control is...quirky. It came with 2 Huygens EP's a 20mm and a 12.5mm and I bought a 10mm Plossl. The clarity difference between the Huygens and the Plossl though is quite large, I was quite surprised but also figured as much from what I've been reading on EP's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wgbeatty View Post
    The weather and skies were perfect last night for viewing so was out taking a look at the various open clusters around Cygnus.

    Tried to find M56 and M57 around Lyra too but had no luck. Really need to upgrade my scope as it may not be capable of seeing these things

    Oh well, will enjoy what I can see and upgrade my other EP's until I can afford something better.
    I would suspect they are visible with your scope albeit a fairly hard spot. I was sketching both of those on Sunday night and they were pretty obvious - not like M107 for example, and that was with my 4" Mak SE4 at 55x and 78x mag. I reckon with a bit of perseverance you should be able to bag both
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    Quote Originally Posted by pushrod View Post
    I reckon with a bit of perseverance you should be able to bag both
    Well, it was only the second time trying, so I am sure I'll get it eventually. The open clusters though were quite easy finds. Didn't realize there were so many around Cygnus.
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    Its a good tip for the guys who have just started.That upgrede your E,P,can make your scope better.

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    The only thing I would caution - the improvement in seeing through the improvement in eyepieces does taper as the price increases. Its a case of diminishing returns.

    Having said that I went from low end plossils to some 5 element eyepieces and it felt like I had started all over again, especially with open clusters that I'd not had much interest in - now I cant get enough of the suckers
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    I just find open clusters beautiful. My favorite is the Pleiades. Course, it's dead simple to find too.
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    Received my russel optics eps a few days ago. Gary sent me all three for $175. I haven't looked through anything else except for the 25mm .965" huygens that came with my scope. Haven't had much time with them due to weather, but wow, what a difference. I opted for 2" format to fit my scope without an adapter. I ordered the 20mm thinking it would be used as a finder only, but it is by far my favorite. I found myself scanning nowhere in particular in amazement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muskrat View Post
    Received my russel optics eps a few days ago. Gary sent me all three for $175. I haven't looked through anything else except for the 25mm .965" huygens that came with my scope. Haven't had much time with them due to weather, but wow, what a difference. I opted for 2" format to fit my scope without an adapter. I ordered the 20mm thinking it would be used as a finder only, but it is by far my favorite. I found myself scanning nowhere in particular in amazement.
    I need to replace my 20mm next. Not sure why but the 20mm Plossls at my local telescope shop are more expensive then the 10mm Plossl I bought. More glass?

    It's night and day between a low quality EP and a better quality one. Glad you like your new EP's.
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