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    Default New theory for the formation of the solar system.



    Hi,

    The solar nebula hypothesis that is the accepted theory on how the solar system formed but it has many flaws. In this light I tried to think of an alternative theory on how the sun and planets formed. It stands against the accepted theory, but theory is man made and we know from history that theories come and go. The question is whether this theory stand against the many observations and evidence we know on the solar system.

    The sun energy source is not fusion. The sun and other stars are heated by magnetic fields from the supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way galaxy.
    With this idea it is possible to trace the formation of the solar system. The sun and stars formed separately. First the sun formed and then after some time the planets formed. Red giants are not dieing stars. Stars fluctuate all the time from being a red giant to being a regular star. The sun was a red giant 4.6 billion years ago as evident from meteorite age. The solar planets formed from the strong solar wind of the red giant sun.

    For more details read the article 210 in philica.

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    How the solar system formed, is a puzzle that challenged scientists for many centuries. The current accepted theory is the Solar Nebula Hypothesis originated by Kant and Laplace in the 18th century. In reference 1 it was suggested that the sun energy source is not fusion but magnetic fields from the center of the galaxy. The Solar nebula Hypothesis cannot coexist with a sun powered by magnetic fields. As shown on reference 4, those magnetic fields create mass that slowly increase the mass of the sun. The sun is growing not from dust from the interstellar space but from synthesis of new particles in the sun interior. The sun and the planets formed separately, the sun came first and then the planets follow.
    In the standard solar model stars are turned into red giants when the hydrogen in their core is depleted and the energy production stop. Stars do not work on fusion, but on magnetic fields, so they turn into a red giant when their energy supply from the magnetic field is stopped. Stars that have a very long Maunder minimum, for tens of million of years, in which their stellar cycle is weak, will turn into a red giant.
    The exoplanet search programs found that stars with planets have higher metallicity compared to stars without planets. The metallicity of a star depends on its mass. Massive stars have higher pressure and temperature in their core that increase the fusion rate of heavy elements. Stars with planet, that show higher metallicity, had higher mass in the past that created the high metallicity. They went through a significant mass loss that decreased their mass but did not change the high metallicity. Those stars significant mass loss occur when they turned into red giants. Red giants have strong stellar wind that disperses the star outer layers into interstellar space. This stellar wind creates comets that form planets around the star. The high metallicity of the sun indicates that it was a red giant. The solar planets where born from the solar wind of the red giant sun. The solar system shows many evidences in support of an ancient red giant sun.
    The energy calculation in reference 4 suggests that stars are slowly growing by converting the energy from the magnetic fields to mass. The gradual mass increase indicates that more massive stars are also older, so according to the standard solar model there is a mix up between older and younger stars. Older stars are not the smaller stars like red dwarfs but the heavier stars like blue giants. The idea that stars are slowly growing from small sizes, and the fact that the latest exoplanet search programs found large number of exoplanets, leads to the conclusion that stars originate from planets. The development steps leading to the creation of stars from planets include: growth of the planet by cold accretion of comets and asteroids; separation of the planet from the star; magnetic ignition of the planet when it reaches the size of a brown dwarf; and growth of the star by conversion of the energy from the magnetic fields to mass.

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    I only have one question for you.Dont you think we would be able to detect the magnetick field then
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    Default Hi Nero,

    The magnetic fields are the magnetic fields of the solar cycle. Every 11 years the magnetic polarity of the sun flips. This create changing magnetic field inside the sun that according to Faraday's law create electric currents and heat. You can find a calculation of this at Philica no. 208. All stars have stellar cycle. This was shown by Mount Wilson Observatory and was described in The Astrophysical Journal, 438:269-287, 1995. The solar cycle and the sun magnetic field is not created inside the sun but is coming from the outside from the galactic disk. The supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way galaxy spread magnetic eddies that create the stars stellar cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danbarzohar View Post
    The solar cycle and the sun magnetic field is not created inside the sun but is coming from the outside from the galactic disk.
    Do you have evidence to support this?

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    Default Ulysses probe revealed the structure of the sun magnetic fields

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    A dipole magnetic field has a unique structure that is found in a bar magnet or in earth magnetic field. If the sun magnetic field was produced inside the sun then the sun should have a dipole magnetic field. However probe Ulysses found that the sun magnetic field is not a dipole but the magnetic flux density is constant with latitude. The magnetic field of the sun was also found to be open and not close as in a dipole. The open magnetic fields extend far into the interstellar space. If you place a steel ball inside a magnetic field the magnetic field around the ball will also be constant with latitude. This suggests that the sun magnetic field is not produced in the sun but is applied from the outside by the galactic disk.

    Search the internet for "ULYSSES SOLAR CORONA EXPERIMENT".

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    Solar Magnetic Fields at High Latitudes
    A surprising result emerging from the Ulysses polar passes was the nature of the heliospheric magnetic field. Based on an extrapolations of the photospheric magnetic field, as observed from Zeeman splitting of certain spectral lines, there was reason to expect a dipole-like field, perhaps tilted by about 10-20 degrees with respect to the Sun's rotation axis during the prevailing solar minimum conditions (Forsyth 1995). Ulysses, however, found no evidence of enhanced magnetic flux at the poles, implying that the dipole-like configuration of the Sun's surface field is not maintained in the solar wind (Balogh et al. 1995). Whereas a dipole field is twice as strong over the poles as at the equator, the Ulysses measurements found that the magnetic flux density in the solar wind was constant with latitude (Smith & Balogh 1995). It is suspected that pressure gradients near the Sun are responsible for redistributing the magnetic flux. In February/March 1995, Ulysses passed swiftly from the southern polar (toward, or negative polarity) magnetic sector into the northern (away, positive polarity) sector. The sector boundary (HCS) was encountered at equatorial heliolatitudes on seven occasions (Smith et al. 1995a). The direction of the high latitude magnetic field was found to be slightly more azimuthal (more tighly wound) than the predicted Parker spiral (Forsyth et al. 1995). Curiously, the magnetic field strength displayed no obvious latitudinal differences between the northern vs. the southern hemisphere (Forsyth et al. 1996).

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    danbarzohar What journal was your theory published in and can we get a copy ?

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    Philica, the "I couldn't get my zero-point energy converter article published anywhere peer-reviewed" journal.
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