Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 22
Like Tree25Likes

Thread: Binocular advice please

  1. #1
    Historyman's Avatar
    Historyman is offline White Dwarf
    Points: 314, Level: 6
    Level completed: 28%, Points required for next Level: 36
    Overall activity: 56.0%
    Achievements:
    2 Posts Achievement20 Posts Achievement!5 Threads Achievement!
    Join Date
    Aug 2019
    Location
    Thetford, Norfolk
    Posts
    21
    Points
    314
    Level
    6
    Thanks
    48
    Thanked 0x 0 Posts

    Default Binocular advice please



    My research seems to indicate that a pair of good binos would be helpful to augment the scope. More research and consideration to my wallet, has led me to a choice of 2 - Olympus 10x50 DPS-1 or Celestron 71009 Skymaster 15x20. Your advice would be most welcome, please.
    j.gardavsky likes this.

  2. #2
    Gabby76's Avatar
    Gabby76 is offline Super Moderator
    Points: 84,245, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 99.8%
    Achievements:
    2 Posts Achievement20 Posts Achievement!Gallery Achievement!Album Achievement!50 Posts Achievement!
    Awards:
    Activity & Post & Thread Master
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Location
    Slovakia
    Posts
    19,533
    Points
    84,245
    Level
    100
    Thanks
    3,712
    Thanked 6,026x 5,063 Posts
    Blog Entries
    5

    Default Re: Binocular advice please

    Both should work well.
    10x50 are a good size as they are still small enough to be handheld but the 15x70 will need a tripod to keep them steady.
    AbbN likes this.
    Refractors: Antares 105 f/15, Celestron 150 f/8, Stellarvue NHNG 80 f/6.9, TAL 100RS f/10, TS 102 f/11, UR 70 f/10, Vixen SD115s f/7.7
    Mounts: Celestron SLT w/ pier mod & EQ-3 tripod, Celestron hypertuned CG-5 w/ tracking motor & Argo Navis, Manfrotto 028B w/ Stellarvue M2C, Manfrotto 055PRO w/ 128RC, TAL-1 HD EQ, Vixen SXP w/ HAL-130 SXG & half pier
    Diagonals: 2" Astro-Physics MaxBright, 2" Zeiss/ Baader prism, 2" Baader Herschel Wedge (Photo Version), 2"
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.
    Amici prism, 2" Stellarvue Dielectric, 2" TeleVue Everbrite
    Eyepieces: A-Z

    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

    The weakest link in the optical chain is the large nut located directly behind the
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.
    / camera. - Gabrielle

    Ya gotta keep this Apo/
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.
    thing in some balance of perspective. Apos are awesome, but long focus Achros aren't that far behind them - Siriusandthepup (CN)

    Refractors kick arse precisely because they don't hide behind excuses. That is, they have no obstructions to hide behind. - Jon Isaacs (CN)

  3. The Following User Says Thank You to Gabby76 For This Useful Post:

    Historyman (08-03-2019)

  4. #3
    jaetea's Avatar
    jaetea is offline Maven-like Entity
    Points: 160,393, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    365 Days+ Registered Achievement!750 Days+ Registered Achievement!2 Posts AchievementFirst 1000 Experience Points20 Posts Achievement!
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Honolulu, HI
    Posts
    7,909
    Points
    160,393
    Level
    100
    Thanks
    1,224
    Thanked 3,101x 2,414 Posts
    Blog Entries
    17

    Default Re: Binocular advice please

    The vast majority of us have a pair of 10X50s, and a much smaller group have a pair of 15X70s. Here are the reasons: 1) Cost, 2) Ease of use across a broad range of conditions -- easier to point, easier to recognize what you're looking at, ie. a wider field of view, easier to hold steady, easier to hold for long durations, 3) Decent light capturing capabilities. In a dark location your eye will normally let you see down to a 5.5/6th magnitude star/object, the 10X50s will add 3.5/4 magnitudes onto that, so they will reveal thousands of new objects for you to look at.

    The superior light gathering and magnification of the 15X70s is trumped (sorry for having to use that word) by their weight. To get the most out of them you need to hold them very steady because of the increased magnification but this is difficult to do because they weigh a lot more than the 10X50s. Consequently, you will at least a tripod, better yet a parallelogram mount which means more cost.

    Bottom line: start with the 10X50s as they can be used for more than just astronomy. Later on you can always get the 15X70s.

    Cheers,
    JT

    PS. since you're supposed to "slow down" according to your SWMBO, you should also get one of these. Boy, do they make using binos easy. jt

    Last edited by jaetea; 08-03-2019 at 02:13 PM.
    AbbN, j.gardavsky, bpm990d and 4 others like this.
    Main: C-stron CPC1100 #2
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.
    :
    8" f/7.5 Dob mounted Newt AP
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.
    :
    TPO 6" RC f/9 &
    ES 80mm f/6 APO G&G Scope: Meade 102mm f/7.8
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.
    Guide Scopes: 70 & 80mm fracs Mounts: C-stron AVX CGEM & GT Alt-Az, Cameras: Canon T3i 2, ASI120MC Binos: 10X502,10.5X70,15X702, 25X100 EPs: ES: 21 100°, 30 82° X-Cels: 9,12,18,25 Clubs: RCA & HAS

    HOME »
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

    I never met a scope I didn't want to keep.
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.
    "My God, it's full of stars."
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

  5. The Following User Says Thank You to jaetea For This Useful Post:

    Jay6821 (08-03-2019)

  6. #4
    Historyman's Avatar
    Historyman is offline White Dwarf
    Points: 314, Level: 6
    Level completed: 28%, Points required for next Level: 36
    Overall activity: 56.0%
    Achievements:
    2 Posts Achievement20 Posts Achievement!5 Threads Achievement!
    Join Date
    Aug 2019
    Location
    Thetford, Norfolk
    Posts
    21
    Points
    314
    Level
    6
    Thanks
    48
    Thanked 0x 0 Posts

    Default Re: Binocular advice please

    Brilliant. Thank you

  7. #5
    Historyman's Avatar
    Historyman is offline White Dwarf
    Points: 314, Level: 6
    Level completed: 28%, Points required for next Level: 36
    Overall activity: 56.0%
    Achievements:
    2 Posts Achievement20 Posts Achievement!5 Threads Achievement!
    Join Date
    Aug 2019
    Location
    Thetford, Norfolk
    Posts
    21
    Points
    314
    Level
    6
    Thanks
    48
    Thanked 0x 0 Posts

    Default Re: Binocular advice please

    Thank you

  8. #6
    jwnrw's Avatar
    jwnrw is offline White Dwarf
    Points: 710, Level: 14
    Level completed: 20%, Points required for next Level: 40
    Overall activity: 9.0%
    Achievements:
    2 Posts Achievement5 Threads Achievement!20 Posts Achievement!365 Days+ Registered Achievement!50 Posts Achievement!
    Join Date
    Jan 2019
    Location
    Ottawa, Canada
    Posts
    29
    Points
    710
    Level
    14
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

    Default Re: Binocular advice please

    The Celestrons were top of my list when I purchased mine back last year. However, once I got them in hand at our local astronomy outfitters, I found the weight to simply be too much for me to want to regularly use them. I ended up with a pair of 10X50 Bushnell Legacy which are both fog and waterproof. They are still heavy when I use them for more than casual glancing and not-so-serious star hopping. I gotta get me one of them recliners ..... that looks like they would do the trick nicely.

    Good luck with your purchase -- I think the 10X50 pair will serve you nicely -- I was able to see Jupiter and Saturn in the southern sky this past week at our oldest son's cottage on Lake Erie where they have fabulous dark skies. I am always amazed at how much I can see with them each time I raise them to my eyes.

  9. The Following User Says Thank You to jwnrw For This Useful Post:

    Historyman (08-03-2019)

  10. #7
    Ozman13's Avatar
    Ozman13 is offline HYPER GIANT
    Points: 29,217, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 20.0%
    Achievements:
    2 Posts Achievement5 Threads Achievement!20 Posts Achievement!365 Days+ Registered Achievement!50 Posts Achievement!
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Hopkinsville Kentucky
    Posts
    8,431
    Points
    29,217
    Level
    100
    Thanks
    170
    Thanked 2,238x 2,011 Posts

    Default Re: Binocular advice please

    Everything JT has said is right on the money, most especially about the chair.

    You can't go wrong with a good set of 10x50s. However if you want that ability of hand holding along with a slightly larger light grasp, you may want to consider either of these pair.

    https://oberwerk.com/product/8x56mm-...ht-binoculars/
    https://oberwerk.com/product/9x60mm-...ht-binoculars/

    I replaced my older 10x50s (many, many years of excellent service!) with the 8x56s and they are SUPERB! A close friend of mine has the 9x60s and they are equally as good.

    I do suggest getting a METAL tripod adapter and either buying or making your own monopod. It will greatly help to stabilize the view and you WILL see more. I made my own monopod from an old wooden mop/broom handle (FREE!! straight from the rubbish pile) that also doubles as a good walking stick.
    AbbN, j.gardavsky and Max Nomad like this.

    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.
    ACF 8"SCT,
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.
    ,
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.
    120, ES 102CF Apo triplet, ES AR102, ST100, ST90, Apex 90mm Mak, ST80, ETX60,
    Oberwerk BT-82XL-ED, 25x100s, 15x70s, 8x56s, Kasai 2.3x40s, Celestron AVX, CG4, SLT, LCM, Obie HD Parallel Bino mount
    Explore Scientific 82 degree and 68 degree EPs, Baader 9mm Ortho, Meade 5000 SWA EP set, many more various EPs, Baader
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.
    &SkyGlow, FringeKiller, SemiApo filters, Celestron UHC, Meade 4000 Nebular Filter, Kson OIII, DGM NPB and lots of astro stuff.

  11. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Ozman13 For This Useful Post:

    Historyman (08-03-2019),Jay6821 (08-03-2019)

  12. #8
    Historyman's Avatar
    Historyman is offline White Dwarf
    Points: 314, Level: 6
    Level completed: 28%, Points required for next Level: 36
    Overall activity: 56.0%
    Achievements:
    2 Posts Achievement20 Posts Achievement!5 Threads Achievement!
    Join Date
    Aug 2019
    Location
    Thetford, Norfolk
    Posts
    21
    Points
    314
    Level
    6
    Thanks
    48
    Thanked 0x 0 Posts

    Default Re: Binocular advice please

    Thank you

  13. #9
    Historyman's Avatar
    Historyman is offline White Dwarf
    Points: 314, Level: 6
    Level completed: 28%, Points required for next Level: 36
    Overall activity: 56.0%
    Achievements:
    2 Posts Achievement20 Posts Achievement!5 Threads Achievement!
    Join Date
    Aug 2019
    Location
    Thetford, Norfolk
    Posts
    21
    Points
    314
    Level
    6
    Thanks
    48
    Thanked 0x 0 Posts

    Default Re: Binocular advice please

    I followed your link and the price is reasonable, but having googled, I can’t find them in the UK. I don’t want to order from the USA and get a whopping customs charge.

  14. #10
    Ozman13's Avatar
    Ozman13 is offline HYPER GIANT
    Points: 29,217, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 20.0%
    Achievements:
    2 Posts Achievement5 Threads Achievement!20 Posts Achievement!365 Days+ Registered Achievement!50 Posts Achievement!
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Hopkinsville Kentucky
    Posts
    8,431
    Points
    29,217
    Level
    100
    Thanks
    170
    Thanked 2,238x 2,011 Posts

    Default Re: Binocular advice please

    Quote Originally Posted by Historyman View Post
    I followed your link and the price is reasonable, but having googled, I can’t find them in the UK. I don’t want to order from the USA and get a whopping customs charge.
    Sorry, I didn't catch your location beforehand. I would still contact them and inquire about it. But likely you can find something similar there, for sure you can get a nice set of 10x50s with no problem. I just do like the slightly smaller magnification matched with the slightly larger aperture which gives a very bright view. A nice set of 7x50s are worth considering too.
    Max Nomad likes this.

    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.
    ACF 8"SCT,
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.
    ,
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.
    120, ES 102CF Apo triplet, ES AR102, ST100, ST90, Apex 90mm Mak, ST80, ETX60,
    Oberwerk BT-82XL-ED, 25x100s, 15x70s, 8x56s, Kasai 2.3x40s, Celestron AVX, CG4, SLT, LCM, Obie HD Parallel Bino mount
    Explore Scientific 82 degree and 68 degree EPs, Baader 9mm Ortho, Meade 5000 SWA EP set, many more various EPs, Baader
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.
    &SkyGlow, FringeKiller, SemiApo filters, Celestron UHC, Meade 4000 Nebular Filter, Kson OIII, DGM NPB and lots of astro stuff.

  15. The Following User Says Thank You to Ozman13 For This Useful Post:

    Historyman (08-03-2019)

 

 
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Binocular advice
    By BluSky37 in forum Astronomy Beginners Forum
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 04-06-2017, 08:11 PM
  2. looking for advice regarding binocular
    By aksingha in forum Astronomy Beginners Forum
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 01-22-2013, 06:01 PM
  3. Looking for some binocular advice
    By Cladinator in forum Binoculars Forum
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 04-09-2012, 06:55 AM
  4. need binocular advice
    By Rocks_91 in forum Astronomy Beginners Forum
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 01-06-2012, 09:24 PM
  5. Binocular advice please
    By Tom Funk in forum Amateur Astronomy Forum
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 10-03-2003, 05:08 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.0
Powered by vBulletin®
All times are GMT. The time now is 01:43 AM.