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    Hello folks,
    My new home on Merseyside affords panoramic views north and west, Irish Sea horizon, Snowdonia peaks, Southern Lakes peaks, and shipping on the Mersey (3-6 kilometres). Excellent views of sun and moon. Can you suggest a good all-round scope that could work behind double-glazing? I might spend 2-300 pounds on a first scope. Telescope, Spotting scope, either is OK.

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    Default Re: New to this game......

    Hi and welcome to the forums!

    A good starter scope we usually recommend is a 8" dobsonian.

    Scopes do not do well through windows, it tends to give you a double imge, so you cannot make much use of it indoors and through a closed window.
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    Hello.
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    Default Re: New to this game......

    Double glazing has four surfaces, each of which can reflect and create an extra image. So, even if the glass was optically perfect, viewing through a window would be unacceptable. Add to that the fact that window glass is not intended to be optically perfect (otherwise a window would cost as much as a 48" lens!) and viewing through a window is just a really bad idea.

    You are going to have to carry the scope outside.

    I second Clinton's recommendation of an 8" Dob.
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    Hi Scouser2018, and welcome here to the Forum!

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    Welcome!
    As everyone said already, there is really no way to make viewing through a window work. It would be a waste of any instrument you get. Sorry, but this is an outdoor sport
    If you tell the crowd here more about your needs and wants you can get better guidance. Otherwise, the default recommendation is indeed an 8" or so dob. Hard to go wrong with that.
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    Hello and Welcome to the forums!
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    Thank you all for your input.
    Point taken about the double-glazing. My house is very exposed to strong winds and I forsee most winter activity restricted to the comfort of my living room.
    I have decided that I will start off with a spotting scope, and if I catch the bug I might get the 8" Dobsonian as suggested, kept in the bedroom for quick access to the garden.
    So, what spotting scopes would suit me best?

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    Hi and welcome! I have a Kowa 82mm spotting scope that I am very pleased with. I have it mounted on a Davis&Sanford "Provista" fluid head tripod with dual handles. Very smooth and very stable. Just my rig, I am sure you will get lots of suggestions from folks much more knowledgeable than I. Good luck! Regards, Bill

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    Hi and welcome to the forum. Others have covered using a scope thru a window. I can also add that just opening the window and trying to stick part of the scope outside and viewing from inside will not work well either. Heat waves and differences of inside and outside temps will make viewing difficult.
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