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    Default Newbie final decision help



    After much wailing and gnashing of teeth, I've narrowed my decision to two scopes, Orion XT10i and XX12I. Originally, I considered a go-to dob or a 9.25 sct, but the thought of manually wandering the skies (with intelliscope back-up) appealed to me. The 12" is about the heaviest I think I could handle. Any comments regarding viewing differences, truss assembly difficulties for the 12", etc., would be appreciated. Recommendations on finder scopes or other mods/options would also be great. Thanks!

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    Default Re: Newbie final decision help

    Hi newtsonk, and welcome here to the Forum!

    Wow! That's some big iron you are considering there. I don't have experience with dobs, so I'll leave that advice to others. I only use a red-dot finder with a Telrad reticle. I see dobs often have a regular Telrad finder, or a right angle finder. I think folks may advise a right angle correct image (RACI) finder.

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    Default Re: Newbie final decision help

    Quote Originally Posted by spereira View Post
    I think folks may advise a right angle correct image (RACI) finder.
    I certainly would, yes. The XT8i and the XT12i have them, the XX12i does not.

    I think the first thing to ask might be how much moving around do you expect this telescope to do? There's a modest jump in weight from 10" to 12". I consider a 10" the limit on what one may reasonably hand carry, and I'm a large man. Its not just the weight, its the bulk. Beyond 10" you may need to factor carts or other moving equipment into your accessories to lift the burden a bit. Just something to consider.
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    Default Re: Newbie final decision help

    How do you like your 10" Skyline?

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    Default Re: Newbie final decision help

    I got an intelliscope, because I had the same thought process. Unfortunately I could never seem to get the push to working. I just skipped right over it and used in manually and never looked back. Honestly, I'd save the cash for some good EPs instead of the push-to.

    Make sure to get a RACI finder and a Rigel or Telrad finder.

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    Default Re: Newbie final decision help

    Quote Originally Posted by newtsonk View Post
    How do you like your 10" Skyline?
    It's a beaut. I think I made the right choice and glad I didn't go another direction when shopping. 10" I think is the sweet spot between portability and large aperture, for a solid tube dob anyway. Some of the larger truss designs might store more compact, but they're still a good bit heavier. You can get 10" dobs for cheaper, but I think the GSO made bundles are a better package with accessories that function well straight out of the box the won't need replacing in a hurry. These are the Orion Skylines, the Apertura AD series you find over at Highpoint Scientific, and the Zhumell Z series though I think these are still unavailable at the moment. I did see another GSO of a different brand pop up on sale a week ago but I can't seem to find it now, it had a straight through finder and white paint like the ones you find overseas. The RACI finder on these is going to be the most practical one you'll want to use on dob - reflex and straight-through finds are a pain in the neck. Literally. The included eyepieces are decent, the 30mm Superview makes a good low power EP you'll get alot of use out of. The bearings are smooth, the action is pretty good on it once you get it balanced right. I've no problem recommending the Skyline or the Apertura.

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    Highpoint is selling both the Aperture AD GSO dobs as well as their house-branded white paint GSO dobs with the straight through finder.
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    Default Re: Newbie final decision help

    I would suggest forgoing the "Intelliscope" feature, just get a straight XT10 or Skyline. It would force you to learn the sky, which is definitely worthwhile. (Plus if you find all the Messier objects manually, you could earn an AL certificate and pin

    As for finderscopes, I wouldn't be without my Orion 9x50 RACI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bladekeeper View Post
    Highpoint is selling both the Aperture AD GSO dobs as well as their house-branded white paint GSO dobs with the straight through finder.
    I had seen that house-branded 10" scope on sale, but can't find on the site any more. It looked like a pretty good deal...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bladekeeper View Post
    Highpoint is selling both the Aperture AD GSO dobs as well as their house-branded white paint GSO dobs with the straight through finder.
    That's what I thought, but I couldn't find them through their website. I had to come in through google. Looks like these don;t come with the RACI or a collimating laser, but they throw in an extra eyepiece. Looks like these are out also. They were on sale last week at this price, so not hard to imagine why. A better deal on 10" dob you will not find. It might be worth giving them a call to find out what the story is.

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