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    Default New member, not a "Newbie", seeks advice on next telescope purchase



    Hi Folks, I'm a long time astronomy buff (Astronomy Magazine -- 35 years! on/off a bit) and I owned a 8" Celestron SCT with Go-to a few years back. I've not done AP to date, but I'm a photographer and videographer who has worked professionally. Now, as my moniker says, I'm going to be full-time RVing as a retiree very soon, and I want to take advantage the dark skies where I will be regularly camping to fulfill the hobby I've always wanted, to do viewing and AP on a regular basis under dark skies. I have a decent budget, maybe $5k for an entire set-up, and I've done some homework. Since I will be a deep sky guy to a large extent, I beleive these scopes are perhaps the best available for me given my budget, purpose, and eye for what I hope to be the best bang for my buck. Many thanks to those who want to help with what for me is a big decision and lifelong dream. I will be working at this and I know that it will be good for me to be over my head, for a while, and also I know that getting the telescope set-up and keeping it in my RV (size is more important than weight, I'm a pretty big guy) are issues to be considered. Here are what I have discovered to be some of the best options for me (I'll get a good EQ mount) as far as the telescope for best value and capability for great imaging at my budget. One is a refractor and one a Maksutov/Newtonian, I consider both styles very appropriate for me (prices are higher now than what is qouted). Please make suggestions and comments.
    Orion 190mm f/5.3 Mak-Newt Astrograph $1,400 - 190mm aperture, 1,000mm focal length, f/5.3 Maksutov - Newtonian

    Explore Scientific 127 $1,999 - 127mm aperture, 952mm focal length, f/7.5 air-spaced triplet apochromatic refractor

    Many thanks! Jon
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    Default Re: New member, not a "Newbie", seeks advice on next telescope purchase

    Hello and welcome to the forums Jon,
    I am sure the AP guys will help you out right away.
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    Hello and welcome, Jon!
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    Default Re: New member, not a "Newbie", seeks advice on next telescope purchase

    Welcome to the forum!

    You definitely will need the best EQ mount you can reasonably afford. I would also suggest you get a visual scope and a different imaging scope. It also would be good for your visual scope to have it's own mount so you can observe while your imaging set up is at work. Something like an 8" Dob would be a good choice for that.

    Concerning the imaging scope, I would suggest something with a little less focal length than what you are looking at. The aperture is of little concern here and I would suggest an 80mm APO. Those astrographs are real wind sails and any little breeze will ruin an exposure, not to mention the longer focal length will magnify any tracking errors. The 80mm APO is also a great wide field compliment to your visual scope.

    Since you are getting a set up put together, don't forget about binoculars, every astronomer should have at least one pair. You can take them anywhere and they will show you a LOT of stuff.
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    Default Re: New member, not a "Newbie", seeks advice on next telescope purchase

    I am kind of curious. You mentioned a 5k budget for an entire setup. That can be eaten pretty darn quick actually. Especially since you are already looking at $1500+ for a scope and probably at least another $1500+ for a mount.

    You will still need things like a guide scope /camera setup. Main imaging camera. Power supply. Possible filters? Laptop for guiding?

    Ozman does make a good point about imaging scope options. You don't need anything huge. Lot of good images have been produced with 80mm APOs (or smaller). So you could opt for something like Explorer Scientific 80MM FCD100 Triplet https://explorescientificusa.com/col...atic-refractor
    Or something similar and won't break the bank and give you a bit more $$$ for a quality mount which will be the most important item for astrophotography.
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    OK those are excellent points, I probably should look at the 80mm scope and allow more consideration of the ancillary needs. I have an Olympus EM5 MKII with a great albeit cropped sensor, and it has a live view (mirrorless) so I can see a photo as it develops with the lens open. A big advantage. I don't think I need a CCD right away, and I also have a great pair of binoculars, Alderblicks, so I don't need to include those expenses. Just solar filter, eyepieces (including Barlows etc.) camera accesories, and other extras. I don't know about another scope and mount for viewing while I am APing. Maybe a piggyback arrangement?

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    You will not want to piggyback a visual scope to a working AP scope, the slightest touch will ruin an exposure. A visual scope would need to be on a separate mount while imaging.

    I would highly suggest a parallel mount for your binoculars (what do you have?) as this will take up very, very little space and will make a HUGE difference in how much stuff you can actually see with them. This is my most used visual set up and very well may keep you quite happy while the imaging set up is at work with no need for a second visual scope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozman13 View Post
    You will not want to piggyback a visual scope to a working AP scope, the slightest touch will ruin an exposure. A visual scope would need to be on a separate mount while imaging.

    I would highly suggest a parallel mount for your binoculars (what do you have?) as this will take up very, very little space and will make a HUGE difference in how much stuff you can actually see with them. This is my most used visual set up and very well may keep you quite happy while the imaging set up is at work with no need for a second visual scope.
    OK I don't know a parallel mount from piggybacking, or is a parallel on the opposite side along with weights as a counterbalance? This was not a google-able subject. And please remember that I am in an RV with this equiptment so I can't be duplicating things unless absolutely necessary. I'd like to have 2 scopes like most all folks on here have even moret than 2 but I have real space limitations.

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    Go to Orion's website, telescope.com and search parallel mount or find their binocular accessories tab. It is a mount that fits on a standard tripod specifically for binoculars, especially larger ones. Mounting binoculars drastically improves their performance, but a pan head on a tripod will not allow you to look very high up, you can't see the zenith. A parallel mount allows you to fully utilize your binos to their full potential. This takes very little space, the tripod is the largest component and it folds up into a small bundle.

    Piggybacking is actually mounting two scopes (or a camera on a scope) together to ride on one mount and counter weights are usually needed. This is also done with a guide scope for autoguiding AP and counter weights are not usually needed for this as the guide scope is usually very small.

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