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    Default Beginner needing info on eyepieces



    I have several scopes but use my Celestron 8SE the most. I have Meade and Celestron eyepieces ranging from 40mm to 4mm and most are plossl or super plossl and I have a barlow lens though I've never tried it. I have several others marked super wide angle in 6,9 and 15mm that I really like because they have good eye relief and are very sharp and contrasty. My question is this, I would like to get some really good quality eyepieces and I am willing to pay 2 to 4 hundred apiece for them but I also know that this is just a beginner scope but it seems good enough for what I use it for and its easy to move and set up. So where do I start for a good say 13mm eyepiece? There are so many brands and types and I don"t want to end up regretting my purchase. I don't really know anyone around here that is into astronomy so I have no one to talk to about it. I would like one with the big top lens and good eye relief like my wide angle ones but a really good quality one. Any suggestions?

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    Default Re: Beginner needing info on eyepieces

    I have several different scopes of different apertures ranging from f/13 to f/5 and in all of them I really like my Explore Scientific eyepieces. I consider the 68 and 82 degree eyepieces from ES to be the best considering price vs. performance. However your scope at f/10 is pretty forgiving when it comes to eyepiece use, you may very well be pleased with the performance of a more economical eyepiece. But that might not be so if you ever get a faster scope.

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    Default Re: Beginner needing info on eyepieces

    I wouldn't classify a Celestron 8se as a beginner scope, it is a very good instrument and will serve you well for many years. It has a long focal length, which means that you do not really want to invest too heavily in very high magnification eyepieces, as you will not be able to use them very often due to the general atmospheric conditions which limit magnification for most of us most of the time. On the other hand, the high focal ratio means that it is very forgiving of eyepieces.

    As for eyepieces generally, they are a very personal thing, and no two members on this forum will have exactly the same collection or exactly the same opinions!

    If you are using plossls at the moment, you should consider investing in eyepieces which will give you a wider field of view, something in the region of 68 - 82 degrees. You really only need 3 or 4 to cover your requirements,and it is a good idea to go for a medium size eyepiece first.

    Prices can vary considerably, and a higher price is not necessarily an indication of higher quality. some lower-priced eyepieces can be just a good as those costing three or four times more.

    From reading many threads on this and other forums, it would probably be safe to say that, amongst the most popular brands around at the moment could be included

    Explore Scientific - especially the 82 degree range

    Televue - especially the Panoptic and Nagler ranges

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    Baader Hyperion

    Meade UWA

    The Explore Scientific eyepieces are well priced in the USA, and would be an excellent investment. My own particular favourites are Televue Panoptics and Meade UWA.

    Completely off the top of my head, and based on the understanding that this recommendation is based on my own collection and those of my mates, I would advise you to try

    27mm Televue Panoptic or 30mm Explore Scientific 82 degree (these two if you have a 2" visual back on the telescope)

    17mm Baader Hyperion or 16mm Televue Nagler or Meade UWA 14mm

    11mm Explore Scientific 82 degree

    1 x good quality 2x barlow.

    But, in reality, almost all eyepieces nowadays are of a high quality, and I think you will be delighted with whichever you eventually choose.

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    Default Re: Beginner needing info on eyepieces

    +1 for the Explore Scientific 82 line
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    Default Re: Beginner needing info on eyepieces

    The Explore Scientific EPs are highly thought of here, around the forum, and I have several of them that work very well in both my Meade and Celestron SCTs.

    As mentioned above, eyepieces tend to be a personal thing. Good luck with your search for some new eyepieces.
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    Default Re: Beginner needing info on eyepieces

    With the 8se anything under a 8 or so MM eyepiece will just not be used much (if at all) ...but that 4 mm eyepiece you have will get some usage doing the second and final step on just the airy disc surrounding a just a hair out of focus star when finishing your collimation..so keep it handy...

    My eyepiece case that I use with my C8 Contains mostly Pentax XF and XW's for the higher powers 8.5 ,10 14 and 20) and most of my Lower Power Eyepieces are Panoptics 24 27 and 35....(I' just do not like ultra wide 82 degree eyepieces) most of these sell in the $300 plus change range...

    BUT I also own a 31 mm Proxoma as well as a 17 mm Orion Stratus (same as the Hyperion but without those PIA rings) These two much less expensive eyepieces simply work very well in a slow scope like a C8...so ou do not have to spend serious money to get very good eyepieces

    I use the 27 ... 31..and 35 mm eyepieces more then all the others combined (I like DSO's) plus I am usually using a focal reducer to lower the power even further... I very very very ever use a Barlow (which in my case is built into my diagonal alone with a Focal reducer (Denkmeier P/S S1 diagonal) ..

    I do not own any Explore Scientific eyepieces BUT the ones I have used work well in slow scopes and in my opinion at least are as good as what The Pentaxs and Panoptics are in my c8 and C11...

    The Baader Hyperions 9or the Orion Stratus) at about $100 or so each just plain will give you good views...quite acceptable at about 1/3 of the price of the higher end eyepieces...

    BTW..I also do not consider the 8se as a beginner scope...its a work horse and does everything well but nothing absolutely great

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    Default Re: Beginner needing info on eyepieces

    I have an 8SE and I find the Explore Scientific 18mm 82 degree to be my favorite all-around eyepiece. I like the eye cup design over the Baader oculars, the fit and finish of the E.S. is nice, and the views are sharp and contrasty. It's waterproof and has a great warranty. I see a 14mm 82 degree on the ES website for $160.


    Here are three posts on this forum that go into eyepiece selection in depth. Anyone thinking about eyepieces would do well to read these:

    A Treatise on Optimizing Planetary Views

    A Treatise on Optimizing DSO Observation

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    Default Re: Beginner needing info on eyepieces

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob327 View Post
    The Baader Hyperions 9or the Orion Stratus) at about $100 or so each just plain will give you good views...quite acceptable at about 1/3 of the price of the higher end eyepieces...

    BTW..I also do not consider the 8se as a beginner scope...its a work horse and does everything well but nothing absolutely great

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