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    Default Good Eyepiece or Eyepiece set



    Hi

    I'm curious about two things. First of all, I'm not sure whether or not I should invest in a good eyepeice set or an eyepiece. Secoundly, what are the good eyepieces out there? I guess I should also mention my telescope is a 14 inch Newtonian.

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    Default Re: Good Eyepiece or Eyepiece set

    Also, are zoom eyepieces any good?

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    Default Re: Good Eyepiece or Eyepiece set

    What eyepieces came with the scope? What is the f ratio of the primary? Zoom eyepieces: I have had a Baader MK2 (probably the best out there) in the past, but eventually moved it on. I found the FOV (field of view)too narrow at the 20mm/24mm end, but very nice and wide at the 8mm setting. With big aperture (14" and upwards) one of the downsides is the decreasing FOV, so one tends to use oculars with 70deg to 100deg FOV. The ES82deg and Televue Nagler (also 82deg) [ some of these are coming up second hand at reasonable prices as the more affluent are replacing their Naglers with the very expensive (in my view Ethos and Delos series oculars that TV is now offering) ]. On the economy end some of the GSO Superviews are ok, but not great. Much depends on how fast/slow your primary mirror is.
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    Default Re: Good Eyepiece or Eyepiece set

    Howdy Doper1234--Welcome to the forum--Just wanted to chime in and pretty much echo what Stephen penned..Really enjoy what Explore Scientific eyepieces I have and the 82* series hits a price point with a wide view that won't have you thinking about becoming a Vegetarian...

    My Meade Zoom works better in my Go-To because of that scopes tracking abilities,Although I still on occasion use it in the Dob with a Barlow on the Planets.

    Whatever EP's you decide to get a Good 2 inch 2xBarlow would be an inexpensive way to Double your magnification choices--The Zhumell or Apertura ED Glass Barlows (Same thing different name)are a good bargain-----------------ZX
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    Default Re: Good Eyepiece or Eyepiece set

    I would definitely go for a couple of mid range eyepieces rather than a set of ordinary plossls. With such a big scope, I reckon you would get a lot of pleasure from a low power wide field of view eyepiece. I have a Panaview 32mm 70degree fov and I love the views it gives, it cost me £90. I also bought a Baader 13mm which converts to 10mm and 8mm with rings, this cost me about £130. If you can save up for better eyepieces than ones in a set I think you will appreciate your scope more, it seems a waste to use low quality eyepieces in a 14".

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    I'm a huge fan of the eyepiece kits for beginners...They are simply a very cheap educational tool to help you discover what magnifications you seem to like as well as what you really desire in an eyepiece (like eye relief..FOV etc)...

    BUT I honestly think anyone who owns a 14 inch Newt is really not a beginner and even if he was he would tend to become a DSO fanatic and not a lunatic (lunar observer) or Planetary guy... PLUS a scope that size just screams for at least mid range quality eyepieces) .... So in this case I would skip the kit and buy a relatively low powered wide field eyepiece to use on DSO's and also get yourself a good solid adjustable dedicated observation chair...

    I do not specify what brand of eyepiece to buy because eyepieces are extremely personal items much like what is your favorite food or what color cars do you like...all of us have are own personal favorites like

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    Hi Sopticals

    I think the f ratio on my scope is 4.6.... it's focal length divided by aperture right? so 1650 by 355.
    The scope came with two super plossl multi coated 52 degree eye pieces; one at 25mm and one at 10mm.
    I was considering this: Celestron Telescope Eyepiece and Filter Kit - 1.25 Inch Format - Telescope Eyepieces at Telescopes I guess it would be a mistake and I should invest in something better?

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    I enjoy using the Meade 4k zoom on my 10" Newt just because I don't have to re-find an object if I desire a closer view. That being said, for DSO's I prefer something with lower power & a nice FOV. Being perfectly honest I would recommend a zoom & a low powered 2" (if your scope is capable of accepting) over the Celestron kit. Buying EP's is like Bob mentioned in his previous post, a very personal decision. That being said, a zoom will give you a great idea (after a few uses) of what magnification you use most often and let you buy a dedicated EP of the correct mag that will perform better without any guesswork of wether or not you are likely to use it.

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    If you are not ready to spend big bucks, then I would recommend the Baader line of Hyperions, or as mentioned above the Baader zoom. They are not the widest field, but they cost very little for a high quality ep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doper1234 View Post
    Hi Sopticals

    I think the f ratio on my scope is 4.6.... it's focal length divided by aperture right? so 1650 by 355.
    The scope came with two super plossl multi coated 52 degree eye pieces; one at 25mm and one at 10mm.
    I was considering this: Celestron Telescope Eyepiece and Filter Kit - 1.25 Inch Format - Telescope Eyepieces at Telescopes I guess it would be a mistake and I should invest in something better?
    To be honest, with f4.6 the cheap Celestron kit wont "cut the cake". You have invested in a relatively large and fast telescope at probably no few dollars. My candid advice would be for you to "cut the corners" and build a set of quality oculars one by one, starting with either a low power like an ES82 30mm or a TV Nagler 31 T5 (ok, I know others will scream expensive!!!, but these can be picked up second hand at a reasonable price after first or second depreciation). Or go for a mid range like the ES82 18mm. If you can afford both low and mid range at the onset that would be a very good start. I would avoid the Baader oculars, as at f4.6 their off axis performance would be disappointing. I have had the "growth experience" of owning several cheaper oculars, and in retrospect, (if I had known what I do now), would have cut "the chase" and listened to the good advice of those on the forums, who really know their stuff. As well as a low/mid power, (or both), eyepieces as a starter to a quality eyepiece set I would recommend a 2" 2x barlow (the GSO is ok), this would double your eyepiece focal length options, and give you a good range of practical magnifications from low to high.
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