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    Hey c.w.it really all depends on how much you want to spend, i am actually reading an magazine add for a denkmeier binotron,let me kick it to ya. 27mm aperture prisms[that is huge ,my wo 20] designed for user collimation,[knock the wo out of collimation back to the factory they go for adjustment]the ability to view at 3 different magnifcation using the same ep's[the wo kind of the same just have to barlow screw unscrew]the denk's has a sliding switch built right in[just how fricking awesome is that]you can also get the optical correcter for use in dob's. The problem is that the binoviewer has a longer opitcal path than a standard ep and therefor you need enough [back focus/the ability to travel in on your focuser to come back to focus]that is why i am having to use my 2x-barlow'because of its length it starts the focusing sooner and for that reason i am actually getting more like 3x or even4x mag that is alot really to much ,but i did manage to get zeroed in on m57 the ring planet nebula and got one of the best looks outside of a dark location. I'am really excited to get the bugs worked out and i well see what they can really do. With the 20mm optical path i am kind of limited,but if i can just get the full moon in it i am going to very very pleased with them.now i have read where some people can't get the image to merge in binoes and one test is that goofy picture you have to stare at in the sunday comics to SEE the hidden picture, well if you can see that you can use a binoviewer. I know with me it FEELS so natural ,oh just so natural. So much so i'm wondering how i can motorize my scope along with it's attached barco lounger and hot and cold drink station. Alright ready for the numbers,wo binoes.250.00 comes with 2 20mm ep's 1.6 barlow[not enough for my dob]can purchase oc from outside source 149.00 total 400.00 ,now the denk's 1,099.00 ,2-21mm ep's549.00 ,oc 149.00 total 1,800.00 this is one i am going to search the astromart classified for , although this denk is the new and improved model .hope this helps you out ,so far the less than ideal views that i am getting now" PRICELESS". Hey i posted on GETTING STARTED check it out i think you might get a kick out of it. Zxcvb
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    C.w.that was actually" the best telescope for city use"

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    Sweet! I'll check it out. Yeah, the cost of the WO is way better than the others i browsed and I saw only positive reviews. I'm still debating on which Explore Scientific 2" 82deg EP to go with first, 18mm, 24mm, or 30mm.
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    That is going to be a tough one ,the 30mm that comes with a zhumell is a little frosty around the edges,but useable, at least untill you 2x-barlow it then everything looks like those cheesy prom pictures.[you know the ones where the photographer actually smears vaseline around the very edge of the camera lens]that is why i went with the 18mm ,close to half of 30.,but that 24mm has got to be sweet and barlow's, to a 12mm,and both of those would togeather with the stock 30mm and 9mm [witch barloes better than 30] would give you 30,24,12,9 and 4.5 a good selection. In my area the 4.5 was a little tight so i also purchased the 6.7mm [i did barlow that, one time looking at the moon and it was like the small section i was viewing was under a thin layer of water just because of the atmospheric disturbance]and the last time i checked it was getting hard to purchase some certain size eyepieces ,hopefully their inventory is back up by now...it is so easy to impulse buy "dang-nab amazon" i know i have a few pieces, that i'll end up giving away. I just gave away a 75mm reflecter to a guy at work who has a 8 year old son;so i stop buy his house after work, his son is there and his dad tells him i have an old toy in my trunk,that if he want's it all it would cost is a thank-you. So he walks over, i pop the trunk and i swear you could see the moon and stars in his eyes. Both his dad and i shed some man tears[you know the kind easily explained away buy whatever might be floating around in the air, i mean he did just cut his grass last week].but anyways there i go just rambling ,just can't wait ,i might not be able to see it ,but i anticipate a heart felt wow from you when you get your kit up and running..just science and the total wonderment of it all, infinity in ether direction...zxcvb

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    Haha! I know too well what you mean. I don't have kids but my friends do and I've had a few of those moments myself. Good for you zx, i'ts one thing to give 'something' but so much more when you can pass 'passion' as well!

    I'ts funny, I do all this research and apply some critical thought to come to a logical conclusion. When I think I have come to the right answer, I throw it out there and my conclusion is affirmed. I figured the 24mm to be best. Although, I figured I'd be able to barlow the 30mm. Oh well, can't expect too much from the 'factory standard' that comes with any package.

    You have no idea, I can't thank you enough. I would have been lost. There's no substitute for experience and I'm thankful to have come across good, friendly people like you and everyone on here. I could have spent months doing research, but still, I'd have to play with the equipment and learn from trial and error to really get anywhere. Fortunately, I found good people to pass on good experience. Thanks zxcvb!! May the universe return your favors!

    I live in a highly LP area and can see very few stars, even on a clear night. I'm gonna play with the setup for bit in the backyard when it gets here just to make sure everything is properly working. Fortunately, being in Texas, I'm surrounded by campgrounds ranging from 6-7 naked eye magnitude at zenith on a typical clear moonless night. All of which range between 1-2hr drive. Which, if you've ever been to TX, is nothing since everything in TX is an hour away. I can't wait to be humbly wowed!!
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    Cw..i am just so glad when i can help anyone out..true story[i know here he goes again]anyways,here i am going to work and here is a guy broke down on the side of the road.

    Middle of winter,cold as hell,barely 8 in the morning and it seems he had hit a piece of ice[the kind that builds up behind the wheel and fall off, i have seen them the size of a virginia possum or a armadilla]

    it has broken his rim and in the processes of putting on the spare one of the lug nuts have rounded off and he has been there for 2 hours...we beat a smaller socket on the lug nut and get it off[i still have the socket, in bedded lug nut included]

    anyways this guy with the ohio plates looks at me and says with some anger "you south carolinian's are the nicest sob's i have ever seen"perplexed i ask "why do you say it like that "and he says "i have been here for 2 hours and everybody that drove buy "WAVED"

    i got a good laugh at that [him not so much] then he thanked me ,offered to pay me[no way that was happening] and then drove off with that look that just says maybe i wont run the next 3 cars off the road. Pay it forward that's all i ask.

    Ah ,texas spent some time in houston..some of us would head to "west" galveston,start a fire,bury a keg and ride 90 down the beach,back in 79 before gilly's burnt down [had to watch out for beach trash and wild pigs way back then]but i know you can get some good seeing weather...i am jealous/ and happy for you...zx
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    Haha! Way to redeem your fellow statesman! Galveston's a cool place. I prefer Port Aransas though. Thanks, I'm definitely on the LP termination line down the central U.S. I couldn't imagine living east. I've seen the LP maps around there. I'ts amazing you get any decent views.
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    Hi C.W.
    Welcome to the forum.
    The Explore Scientific 18mm 82* is a really great eyepiece for the money. If I was going to buy one (1) eyepiece only, that' would be it.
    Just my 2 cents.
    It looks like you are looking at the "right stuff". I'm sure you will be very happy with your choice, whatever it is. There's no right, or wrong choice, here.
    You've received some very sound advice. Go with your "gut" feeling and never look back. When you get started, let everyone know how you're doin', OK?
    Good luck and clear skies, my friend.
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    Thanks Magoo! Sound advice! Will do! As soon as I get back from dark skies I'll post a review of the setup.
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