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    Hi Guys,

    I'm looking for a little help. very new and don't have a clue. i recently got a celestron astromaster 130mm and have a bit of cash left over to buy a few extra's.

    i was going to buy the celestron accessory pack with 5 plossl eyepieces , a barlow and some filters, i have been told i would be better off pending the £140.00 on a couple of better quality.

    First Light Optics - Celestron Eyeopener Eyepiece and Filter Kit

    The scope comes with a 10mm eyepiece and 20mm rectifying eyepiece.

    i have been looking at these, First Light Optics - Celestron X-Cel LX eyepiece

    with regards to the xcel lx could someone let me know which two sizes would be of most benefit too me, i plan to look at planets initially but have a interest in seeing anything and everything possible.

    So should i buy the pack to give me more scope so to speak or get the better eyepieces and build gradually, will i really notice much difference with the X cel LX.

    i also intend to get a bigger dob at some point and hope these eyepieces would be still useful.

    sorry to ask such a lot, i am reading a lot and trying to do my own research, this hobby seems to have a steep but very enjoyable learning curve !

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    Default Re: Help Choosing EyePiece's

    My advice is DON'T. Wait a few weeks until you get used to your new telescope. You will then know yourself which eye pieces you would like to have to fill the gaps. Much will depend on what you want to observe, e.g. low mag, wide fov for DSOs. high mag for solar objects.
    A good variable polarised filter might make it more comfortable when viewing the Moon for any length of time. There again you could try sun glasses and save money.
    I am sure that you would end up using one, possibly two, eyepieces from a kit, the others, together with filters would gather dust at the back of a drawer.
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    Default Re: Help Choosing EyePiece's

    Good advice.

    Since you are already thinking about buying a bigger scope, then you should just content yourself with what you have already. Use it as a learning exercise. By the time you come to get that bigger scope, you will know what type of objects you like, how they look in the eyepiece, and what you need to get the best views of those objects.

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    Default Re: Help Choosing EyePiece's

    You're experiencing something that all beginners do: a burning desire to improve what you see through your scope. For a beginner, the "path of least resistance" nearly always appears to be "buy some extra stuff to make my scope better". Generally, new eyepieces.

    It turns out, though, that there's a lot of other stuff you can do to improve your views through your telescope, without spending a dime! Visual astronomy is as much a learned skill as painting or woodworking. In that frame of mind, have a look at these two threads, which I think will help you to get the most out of your current setup, at which point you can then decide where to apply some strategic upgrades.

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    cheers for the advice, guess i'll spend my cash on a couple of books instead !

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    cheers for the links skaven, most useful

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    Default Re: Help Choosing EyePiece's

    Download a free program called Stellarium if you haven't already.

    I know all too well how you feel, I just finished rowing that boat. These guys told me the same thing and they were absolutely right and I knew it. Trouble is, I'm curious, impatient and a tinkerer by nature so the single 25mm EP that came with my 10" Dob left me less than satisfied. My first night I couldn't find a thing, spent hours scanning around the sky just seeing stars and wondering which way I was suppose to hold the damned planishpere.

    The second night I saw Jupiter in Stellarium and managed to find it in my scope. Must have watched it for hours. Over the next few nights I studied the stars in Stellarium and memorizing them while I ran outside I used binoculars and my red dot sight to star hop to what I was looking for. That got easier over the next few nights as I read tons of information and a couple books. That done, I felt a deep urge to have more than one cheap EP.

    I know nothing about your scope, I have a Dob and I'm as green as they come. With that said, I must have read thousands of posts, opinions and reviews over the next couple weeks with every spare moment I had. EPs were so confusing and everyone has a different opinion. The Televues are the clear winner in all these posts but for the cost of a full set of those I could build my own spaceship and fly to what I wanted to see. My wallet just can't open that wide. I settled on the Explore Scientific EPs in 68° and 82° fields of view. I should mention here that my decisions on what focal lengths to get (Xmm on the EP) were influenced in very large part to posts Skaven made on a topic from someone with a scope almost the same as mine. I couldn't be happier with these EPs and I picked a few of them up used and in good condition.

    A little caveat. This hobby will infest your very essence as well as your bank account. I got my scope at the beginning of this month. Since then I've bought a full set of EPs, a wooden EP box, and RACI finder, took my scope apart and modified it with a new azimuth bearing ring, knob for moving it around the sky and a second dovetail mount for the RACI. I've ordered books, bought a sketch kit and red lighting for my observing area as well as my sketching clipboard. Printed out Messier lists and observing forms. Driven around for hours scouting observing sites and recently ordered everything I need to build myself a portable observatory out of tarps and a PVC frame.

    Be careful, or you'll end up like me. Broke and utterly elated about it.

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    Default Re: Help Choosing EyePiece's

    If it is really eating you, then get a couple of these. The 15mm and the 6mm would be the ones to buy, to give you a spread of magnifications.

    They are less than half the price of the Celestron's you mentioned, have a 66 degree field and are actually quite acceptable little eyepeices. These two eyepieces would do the job for a while when you eventually upgrade

    Sky-Watcher Sky-Watcher Ultrawide Eyepieces

    But, to be honest, a copy of "Turn Left at Orion" will pay you more dividends in the long run.
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