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    Question Is Celestron 130eq a decent upgrade from Celestron Powerseeker 50az?



    Hi All,

    Ok, so i just recently purchased a Celestron Powerseeker 50az telescope.
    Now this is my first scope, and i have NO experience in any of this sort of thing.
    I managed to find certain objects quite quickly/easily.
    I really enjoyed lookin at Saturn and Jupiter (seeing al the moons in practically a straight line was quite interesting ), but my biggest headache at the moment is that there is no way to move the scope smoothly (as the mount is very primitive), I manage to see Saturn quite clearly with the Barlow lens and 12mm eyepice, but it moves out of view quite quickly, and then when i try to center on it again, I usually overshoot completely and lose it as the scope won't move, then all of a sudden just jump.
    Now my question is as follows: Is it worth buying the Celestron Astromaster 130eq? (Is it a big upgrade from the Powerseeker 50az?). Now i know this question might possibly seem very stupid to some of you more experienced awesome people out there , but as I said, I am a COMPLETE beginner.
    I just love the reflectors, and I would love to, at some stage, start looking at the deep space objects.
    From what i've read, the Reflectors are WAY better for the deep space viewing as it has a higher light gathering rate.
    But does the 130eq have smoother control? And does it also move quite a considirable amount when you are turning the Focus Knob (as in Try to focus and while turning the knob, the scope moves and you lose your target)?

    If there is a scope with similar/better performance and/or better quality than the Celestron 130eq within the same price rance, suggestions would be appreciated as I don't know any of the other brands

    Thanks In advance!

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    You're question is not stupid at all, we all have learned as we go and will continue to do so. Is the 130EQ an upgrade from the 50AZ? I would say so. You are gaining aperture, from 50mm to 130mm, and that is in itself considered an upgrade, at least to me. The 130 is capable of showing you more objects due to its larger aperture alone. The EQ mount? Well, to be honest there are probably two things about this scope that are below par: the mount and the finder. The mount is okay but it does vibrate at the slightest touch, there are some things you can do to improve it some but it still isn't going to be a great mount. The finder included is worthless so budget around $40 for an upgrade. If you are in the market for a reflector and plan to use it for observing DSOs along with planetary objects you may want to look at the Ares 5. It's a table-top Dobsonian and basically the same aperture as the 130EQ.

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    Thank you very much for the quick reply

    I think I might get the 130eq for now (budget not big at the moment), and start saving up for a better one in the future. For now all I am concerned about is smoother controls. With the 50az, it's literally just a disc with a bolt in the middle, and the Altitude is a pain as it either doesn't move at all, then you add a bit more pressure, then it jumps way too far.
    From what I've read, the 130eq at least has the slow-mo controls which my friend said is quite useful, especially with the less-stable mounts so you can adjust it a little bit at a time, wait for it to stabalize, and then repeat until you have the desired view.

    Is the Magnification on the 130eq any/slightly/much better than the 50az? and would you recommend buying extra eyepieces?
    And will the eyepieces included with the 50az work with the 130eq?

    I can't seem to find any suppliers/sellers of the ARES 5 here in South Africa

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    I don't like EQ mounts myself, (They are probably fine once you get up to $500+ but cheap ones are hard to work with IMO) so for about the same price on Celestron's site you could get either this or this scope. Both are amazing scopes!

    If you want to track objects with your scope, this scope and a motor drive would work great.

    I read some reviews on Celestron's site about the Astromaster and despite the good looks (black and orange? awesome!) I agree with jproffit about the mount and finderscope being worthless.

    Hope this helps!
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    I have the 130EQ and as a complete amateur too have found it very good for looking at both planets and what DSO's I have so far found. Totally agree that the finder on it is worthless - throw it straight in the bin! Have found the mount to be ok though myself, although as I said I'm a beginner too so have nothing much to compare it to

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    Personally, I think an 6" or 8" dobsonian would be a great next scope. These are relatively inexpensive, easy to transport, setup and operate. While EQ mounts are cool and necessary for astrophotography they are really not needed for purely visual work and can actually be a bit give of a headache. I am sure that others will chime in with their opinions and give good advice.
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    6 times as much light falls on a 130 mirror than a 50 lens.

    Considerably more than you would guess.

    Inexpensive mounts are just that, you get what you pay for - so the simpler the mount, the better it will be.
    With that as a given, a dobsonian mount means that your views will be a lot better - because the mount is as simple as it can be.

    You will get a 150 dobsonian for the same price as a 130 EQ if not more (150 is 1.3 times as much light as 130)
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    I have quite a few Telescopes but none of them are Newts... But there is no question that the 130 will be a HUGE upgrade over a 50 mm refractor...

    I'm a SS card carrying Senior Citizen and as such (OLD AGE) I would never even consider a Newt on a Gem..my Chiropractor already owns Mercedes I'm not about to help him buy his next one... That said I USED to like Gem mounts when I was younger and still actually still use one on a 4 inch refractor..but a refractor is a lot easier to use on a Gem then A Newt...

    Buy the darn thing .. it will put up some darn good views and looks like it does have a slow motion knob on it...

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    Myself I prefer the eq mounts with a motor drive. It makes it much easier to study what I'm viewing. And even the cheaper eq mount are steady if you don't need to touch them to follow what you are viewing.
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    Hi all,

    Thank you for the help.
    I checked sites selling Orion scopes here, and they are considerably more expensive than the Celestron 130eq, (South Africa for the win).
    So I think I am going to get the 130eq, and maybe just get a better mount / electronic drive later or use if for a few months while I save up for a big boy scope .

    I see that nobody likes the finderscope on the 130eq AT ALL.
    But how is it compared to the Powerseeker 50az's 2x20 findersope?

    Thank you all for the replies, suggestions and sharing of knowledge
    Clear Skies to all.

    PS: Saw Saturn again last night. still a beautiful planet to behold,.
    Staring at Saturn for about 5 minutes before I go back inside is like a goodnight wish to the night sky

 

 
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