Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 20
  1. #1
    Forkbeard's Avatar
    Forkbeard is offline White Dwarf
    Points: 362, Level: 7
    Level completed: 24%, Points required for next Level: 38
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    10 Days registered2 Posts Achievement20 Posts Achievement!
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Sheffield
    Posts
    10
    Points
    362
    Level
    7
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

    Default Complete beginner - Binoculars or Telescope?



    Hi,

    I'm wanting to get a basic set up for exploring the night sky and am torn between a cheap telescope or some binoculars. I've read that many reviews I have given myself a headache!
    I've kind of decided on binoculars, as I'm sure I can't afford a decent telescope (budget of around £100, although I *could* go higher). I don't want to buy the binoculars though and find I "grow out of them". I was just wondering what use other's who know more about the subject have had from binoculars?

    I also have a decent tripod so that won't be an issue for the bins.

    Thanks, F.B

  2. #2
    KathyNS's Avatar
    KathyNS is offline Super Moderator
    Points: 173,431, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 97.0%
    Achievements:
    200+ Posts Achievement!Ghost Achievement! Averaging 5+ posts a day!First 1000 Experience Points400+ Posts AchievementGot three Friends
    Awards:
    Reply Award
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Nova Scotia
    Posts
    25,191
    Points
    173,431
    Level
    100
    Thanks
    6,660
    Thanked 14,988x 9,544 Posts
    Blog Entries
    3

    Default

    If you are severely budget-limited, decent binoculars will probably be better than a crappy scope. The nice thing about binos is that you can always use them, even when you have a 20" Dob and a $3000 imaging rig.

    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.


    DSO AP:
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.
    Newtonian Astrograph; ATIK 383L+; EFW2 filter wheel; Astrodon Ha,LRGB filters; KWIQ/QHY5 guide
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.
    ; Planetary AP: Celestron C-11; ZWO ASI120MC; Portable: Celestron C-8 on
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.
    pro; C-90 on wedge; 20x80 binos; Etc: Canon 350D; Various EPs, etc. Obs: 8' Exploradome;
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.
    (pier);
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.
    .

    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

  3. #3
    MitchAlsup's Avatar
    MitchAlsup is offline SUPER GIANT
    Points: 5,847, Level: 52
    Level completed: 49%, Points required for next Level: 103
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    200+ Posts Achievement!First 1000 Experience Points400+ Posts Achievement50 Posts Achievement!365 Days+ Registered Achievement!
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Austin Texas
    Posts
    1,066
    Points
    5,847
    Level
    52
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 505x 381 Posts

    Default

    I basically agree with keith.

    Binos are always useful, even when the sun is shining.
    Unless you can bring together the funds for a 8"+ class DOB you should really consider putting the money in binos or leaving it in the bank. {My opinion.}

  4. #4
    gmssms's Avatar
    gmssms is offline Main Sequence
    Points: 2,429, Level: 31
    Level completed: 86%, Points required for next Level: 21
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    365 Days+ Registered Achievement!200+ Posts Achievement!First 1000 Experience Points750 Days+ Registered Achievement!5 Threads Achievement!
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    san diego
    Posts
    155
    Points
    2,429
    Level
    31
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 25x 23 Posts

    Default

    I started with binos as I was deciding on a telescope. They are a really quick go to on nights when I don't feel like setting up the telescope. They are also a good way to learn the night sky.

    As mentioned they're also useful during the day. I have some hawks that fly around during the day and am close to a couple airports. Easier to use than a telescope to follow them.

    Gerry

  5. #5
    matthewota's Avatar
    matthewota is offline HYPER GIANT
    Points: 18,122, Level: 93
    Level completed: 6%, Points required for next Level: 378
    Overall activity: 14.0%
    Achievements:
    First 1000 Experience Points200+ Posts Achievement!365 Days+ Registered Achievement!750 Days+ Registered Achievement!100+ Threads Achievement!
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Phoenix, Arizona
    Posts
    1,753
    Points
    18,122
    Level
    93
    Thanks
    23
    Thanked 964x 572 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    I am old school on this. Buy binoculars to learn the sky first, then get the 'scope.

    I wish I still had my binos..they were lost in a move.
    Matthew Ota
    10" Meade LX250GPS SCT, 80mm
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.
    ED80 Achromat, Lunt LS60THaPT H-alpha Solar Telescope

  6. #6
    samgray1's Avatar
    samgray1 is offline HYPER GIANT
    Points: 22,398, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    10 Days registeredGot three Friends200+ Posts Achievement!365 Days+ Registered Achievement!First 1000 Experience Points
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    San Diego, Calif., USA
    Posts
    1,869
    Points
    22,398
    Level
    100
    Thanks
    806
    Thanked 832x 581 Posts

    Default

    I agree with the others. Binos are always useful and it is better to get a decent set of binos and learn the sky than to buy a cheap telescope that you replace as soon as you can (can be money wasted). My first astronomy purchase was my binos and I still use them every night that I am out looking at the night sky.
    Name: Sam
    Equipment:
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.
    12” Collapsible Dob w/Telrad, Explore Scientific 30mm 82*, and 20mm, 14mm, & 9mm 100* EPs, Tele Vue 4X Powermate & Paracorr T2, 2" Lumicon UHC and ND13 (
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.
    ) Filters, 2" Astronomik OIII filter, dew heater system, and Nikon Action 7x50 EX Extreme ATB 6.4* binoculars & Celestron 15x70 binoculars.

    I'm enjoying learning the sky by star hopping; just charts, my binoculars, and my Dob!

  7. #7
    patpaa's Avatar
    patpaa is offline Bright Giants
    Points: 6,830, Level: 57
    Level completed: 40%, Points required for next Level: 120
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    200+ Posts Achievement!365 Days+ Registered Achievement!First 1000 Experience Points400+ Posts Achievement5 Threads Achievement!
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Sweden
    Posts
    335
    Points
    6,830
    Level
    57
    Thanks
    129
    Thanked 117x 73 Posts

    Default

    Get the binos! Even moderately prised ones will serve you forever.

    However, be aware that if you're planning to buy higher-power binoculars (above say 10x) for use with your tripod, they will not be very useful for grab-and-go as you will not be able to hold them steady enough. When fellows recommend binoculars for beginnners, they usually mean low-power versions (7x or 10x) for hand-held use. These are great, easy to use, intuitive tools for learning the constellations and scanning the sky.

    My advice for hand-held use would be 7x50's or 10x50's.

    Cheers /Patrik
    Celestron Omni XLT 102 refractor, Celestron UpClose 10x50 binoculars.

  8. #8
    sxinias's Avatar
    sxinias is offline Super Moderator
    Points: 323,522, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 31.0%
    Achievements:
    Got three Friends20+ Friends Achievement!First 1000 Experience Points5+ Referrals Achievement!100+ Threads Achievement!
    Awards:
    Attachments Award
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Marathon Greece summer Tampa Florida winter
    Posts
    17,799
    Points
    323,522
    Level
    100
    Thanks
    4,582
    Thanked 10,194x 6,475 Posts
    Blog Entries
    4

    Default

    I can't add to the excellent advice given so far but did want to welcome you to the Astronomy Forum. One inexpensive but excellent telescope you may want to consider is the Orion GoScope 80mm table top refractor at £105. Sky and Telescope reviewed it not too long ago and gave it outstanding reviews. It will be an excellent alternative to binoculars and more capable. http://www.scsastro.co.uk/catalogue/...-refractor.htm
    Last edited by sxinias; 01-25-2012 at 09:18 AM.
    SXINIAS

    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.



    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.
    ZEQ25 mount;
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.
    SynScan AZ
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.
    Mount;

    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.
    ST-80A 80mm Refractor (OTA); Meade
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.
    203mm SCT (OTA);
    Meade DS2090AT 90mm Refractor; Meade 2045LX3 102mm SCT;

    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.
    4 SE 102mm MAK; Celestron Advanced Series C6S (XLT) 150mm SCT
    with an iOptron GOTO Drive

    My Photos:
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

  9. The Following User Says Thank You to sxinias For This Useful Post:

    ebusinesstutor (01-26-2012)

  10. #9
    Jason G's Avatar
    Jason G is offline White Dwarf
    Points: 914, Level: 17
    Level completed: 14%, Points required for next Level: 86
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    365 Days+ Registered Achievement!5 Threads Achievement!750 Days+ Registered Achievement!2 Posts Achievement20 Posts Achievement!
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Suffolk
    Posts
    11
    Points
    914
    Level
    17
    Thanks
    15
    Thanked 0x 0 Posts

    Smile

    I love using bins, they're so convenient and as others have mentioned, are a great way of learning the sky. When I first started using them I was amazed at the difference they made to what I could see.

    That said, I bought an Orion SkyScanner 100 tabletop scope for my 5 year old son for Christmas, following some advice on this forum and I have to say I'm very impressed. It only cost around £100 so is within your budget. It's size makes it easy to store, but it can also be quickly mounted to an ordinary camera tripod if needed. I've found I use his more often than my own 8" because of its 'grab-and-go' nature. It's almost as convenient as binoculars.

    Personally I'd go with the bins, but a small tabletop scope could be a decent alternative. One of the members on this forum posted a link to a website (possibly their own) that reviewed small and inexpensive scopes, so that might help.

    I'm sure you won't be dissapointed whichever way you decide to go.

    Good luck!

  11. #10
    Forkbeard's Avatar
    Forkbeard is offline White Dwarf
    Points: 362, Level: 7
    Level completed: 24%, Points required for next Level: 38
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    10 Days registered2 Posts Achievement20 Posts Achievement!
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Sheffield
    Posts
    10
    Points
    362
    Level
    7
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

    Default

    Thanks for the replies everybody. I've decided to go with the bins and ordered some this morning (Pentax 10x50). I think I'll see how I go with these and do some homework/save some cash for a telescope further down the line. I'm sure there's plenty to go at with the bins for the time being .

    I also have a dslr so I'm gonna try some basic astrophotography.

 

 
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Complete beginner
    By Edhardy95 in forum Astronomy Beginners Forum
    Replies: 37
    Last Post: 01-04-2012, 08:58 PM
  2. Hi All- Complete beginner, all advice appreciated :)
    By Karma in forum Forum Welcomes Introductions
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 10-02-2011, 11:51 AM
  3. Replies: 25
    Last Post: 04-25-2011, 05:41 PM
  4. Complete Beginner
    By skye@nite in forum Forum Welcomes Introductions
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 03-30-2011, 02:05 AM
  5. Complete Beginner - What's A Good Starting Point?
    By LucidBlaze in forum Binoculars Forum
    Replies: 25
    Last Post: 06-18-2009, 07:23 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.0
Powered by vBulletin®
All times are GMT. The time now is 04:14 AM.