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    Question Advice please!!! Skywatcher Heritage 130p vs Flextube Skywatcher Explorer 130



    Which of these scopes would you recommend?

    Skywatcher Heritage 130p Flextube
    Skywatcher Explorer 130

    We have been advised to go for the heritage, but the lens' that come with the explorer can give x180 magnification, and the heritage can only give x65. We're very interested in seeing planets to begin with, but would the explorer at that high of a magnification give poor image quality? Is a larger focal length better?

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    The skywatcher 130 telescope comes with a barlow so you would have 130x top magnification.
    That motor drive would come in handy to keep an object in the field of view during a kiss too.
    Yep that scope has my vote.
    Really I read the specs, you would be happy with that one as a first scope.

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    For me there would be little competition in the opposite direction.

    The Explorer 130 is not motorized and has a very shaky mount/tripod. It will also not be nearly as portable as is the Heritage 130p.

    Both are capable of the same useable magnification since they both have the same diameter mirror.

    But there is a significant difference which is to the detriment of the Heritage.

    The Heritage is a faster telescope. That keeps it smaller but also means that with the normal Plossl eyepieces you will notice some degradation of the view as you look close to the edge of the Field of View (FOV). That can be improved if you get the 5 element Super Plossl eyepieces and nearly eliminated with some very expensive eyepieces.

    The Explorer is a slower telescope and will not demand so much of the eyepiece. So you will have less degradation of the FOV with the normal Plossl eyepieces.

    One other point on the eyepieces? If you are like most of us, you will probably stick with Plossl eyepieces. Plossl eyepieces with very short focal lengths require you to virtually glue your eyeball to the eyepiece - you get better eye relief if you get a longer focal length and you can move your eye back to a decent distance. That means that for a given magnification (focal length of the telescope divided by the focal length of the eyepiece) the telescope with the longer focal length can use a longer focal length eyepiece - and you get better Plossl eye relief.

    But what many of us do is to use a 2-3x Barlow with a longer focal length eyepiece and that means that we can still get the better eye relief along with the desired magnification.

    I generally like slower (longer focal length) telescopes for visual use.

    But you are interested in portability and you should be interested in a rock-solid platform and to me that means the Heritage.

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    I screwed up in the above. I somehow missed the fact that in the title it specified the Flextube version of the Explorer. That means that my assertions may be entirely without merit. I haven't been able to find the Flex-tube version of the Explorer, so I cannot figure out just how little merit there is.

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    Magnification is the least important quality of a telescope. APERTURE and quality optics are much more important than magnification. Once you get beyond looking at Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn; there are thousands of other objects that never require more than 100 power to see.

    And you can see these 5 planets just by looking up -- no telescope needed

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    Quote Originally Posted by OleCuss View Post
    I screwed up in the above. I somehow missed the fact that in the title it specified the Flextube version of the Explorer. That means that my assertions may be entirely without merit. I haven't been able to find the Flex-tube version of the Explorer, so I cannot figure out just how little merit there is.
    Hi OleCuss - I think the Flextube, in this case, comes under the Heritage range, and not the Explorer. Have a look here

    I've got my eyes on one these too ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Lalumia View Post
    Magnification is the least important quality of a telescope. APERTURE and quality optics are much more important than magnification. Once you get beyond looking at Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn; there are thousands of other objects that never require more than 100 power to see.

    And you can see these 5 planets just by looking up -- no telescope needed

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    The heritage has a better mirror and is more portable and more stable so you will see things faster because you're not waiting for the vibes to stop. The explorer is aimed to impress first time buyers with it's eq mount etc so it looks, I hate these words,'professional'. A barlow will cost about 25% on the price of the dob to buy separately so it basically boils down to personal choice with those two scopes.

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    both scopes have the same mirror,neither are better.
    i have had an explorer,good visual scope,but does suffer
    from the shakes.they come in two f/l's,650mm and 900mm.
    i had the 900mm version,f6.9 as opposed to f5.
    i have to agree with others,magnification is not always the answer.
    on a good table,the heritage will be better for viewing,as it will
    be more solid.
    and portability?pick it up with one hand ans away you go.
    a good scope in a small package.
    only thing you may need is a sgroud,depending on where you're
    viewing from.
    clear skies,

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    He compares heritage 130P and explorer 130, if the explorer is not the 'P' model and has the 900mm focal length then the mirrors are indeed different as the dob has a parabolic mirror.

 

 
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