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    Sandy, I don't have the Orion, but I've been reading reviews about it and have mixed feelings about it. On one hand I read this "good" review: "The second time I used the Skyline Laser Pointer, it dropped for my gloved hand to the snow covered ground and broke. I would think that a product that costs as much as this did would have been engineered better to absorb the shock of a 24 inch fall to the ground.". Typically a good laser, with decent glass optics and filters, should be very sensitive to shock, and the fact that it breaks is a good sign for a quality laser. A cheap, red laser...well, you can throw it out of a moving car and will still work. Not a decent laser though. I like the honesty factor: they advertise an output power of 3.5-4.5 mW. Not the typical 4.5-5 mW of cheaper knock-offs.

    On the other hand, the laser has very little published technical data, comes with regular AAA batteries, and the Operating Manual is pure horror. Let me copy+paste from it:

    Depress the power button to turn the laser beam on. The laser shines for as long as the power button remains depressed. Releasing the power button turns for intermittent, short-duration use as a hand-held pointer. The laser should be turned on for no more than a minute or two at a time, then left off for a minute or so. Keeping the power on for longer durations may cause the beam of several minutes with the power off, the beam should shine at full intensity again.
    You can see their Manual here.
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    ferk, I had been reading the two reviews that were attached to the combination of the laser and mount, but this morning I looked at the reviews for just the laser alone. I read them all and of course saw the one that you posted. I also read the "users manual" on-line yesterday. I too was concerned about the advertised output of the unit.

    As an aside, the rave reviews re the Jasper are only for their so called Always model.
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    ferk, I just wanted to make another comment about the Orion laser. I guess I was speed reading the specs because the 3-5 mW spec is 1 mW below every other manufacturer's specs which in worse case scenario means that their unit perhaps puts out 20% less of the max allowable output than the others. I was about to pull the trigger until you pointed that out. The others guarantee 4-5 mW. A mW is a mW! And it's not it's a cheapie eBay Hong Kong express model.
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    I don't really know how much of a difference that will make. A GLP is VERY bright, especially at night, with dark adapted eyes. I would guess that even at 3.5 mW it's bright enough to work as a finderscope just fine.

    Before ordering the Orion I suggest you take a look at the Wickedlasers CORE. I own one, and it's a fantastic laser. They ARE made in Hong Kong, but they are very high-end lasers. For $48 you save $30 and get what I have the feeling is a far better laser than the Orion.
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    I'll check it out ferk!
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    Hmm, ferk, that is tempting. It has an diameter of about a half inch hence I could get that, the Orion mount and shoe and would be good to go. Where is the switch on the body or the rear? Which mount was it again that you use?
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    I use the ScopeStuff's, but only because it has a Telrad base adapter, and with only 1 base I can switch back and forth. I don't have to drill YET another set of holes, or add unnecessary weight to my scope's nose.
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    Ah yes, I now remember that you used the Telrad base.
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    All,

    I am doing a test with this one right now:

    50mW 532nm Green Beam Laser Pointer Pen Black - DinoDirect.com

    I bought one of the last February to use with my 130SLT to point stars out to people so they could identify what they were looking at.

    Had not thought of using it as a finder:
    A. because it had a momentary push button (Discussion of using O ring is a solution)
    B. most recent discussion of cold and dimming.

    It dawned on me... it is cold outside, I already have one, why not just test to see what happens!

    Will Let everyone know the results when they are in...

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    This is the email I received from Jasper today.

    On 12/27/2010 10:05 AM, Lee Brown wrote:
    > Neil,
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    > Thanks for your email. We have reduced our telescope mount selection to one universal mount called our Jasper Universal Sticky Mount. This mount utilizes a piece of high quality, low residue adhesive to hold the mechanism to the side of your telescope in whatever location you feel is most ideal. No need to fill up expensive accessory mounts.
    >
    > The mount works by allowing the Jasper Always Laser to slide into a "gimble ball" that allows for fine tune adjustments. Once the laser is pointing the exact location you prefer, the mount can be locked in its location by tightening the two Phillips screws on the top of the gimble ball's cradle.
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    > On Dec 26, 2010, at 9:53 PM, Neil Dahl <neildahl@tx.rr.com> wrote:
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    >> > Hello,
    >> >
    >> > Interested in one of your Jasper Always to mount to a Celestron 8SE, But none of your links on your web page are working to show how the mount works. I need a mount that will attach to my Ceslestron 8SE and once aligned as a finder will maintain accurate pointing for use as a finder. How does your mount work, and how does the alignments system work to maintain accurate alignment after calibrating laser to scope?
    >> >
    >> > Thank You!
    >> >
    >> > Neil
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    >> > --
    >> > Please update your Address Book with my new Email Address:
    >> > neildahl@tx.rr.com
    >> >
    >> > Neil's Home Page \/ \/ \/
    >> >
    >> > Neil Dahl
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