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    Default Total newbie with equipment list - looks ok?



    After reading tons and tons of forum posts, I realized an SCT on a wedge is NOT optimal regarding imaging So I made a total u-turn and realized an eq mount is the way to go. I think I’ve found a descent list for starting with astrophotography...?

    Sky-Watcher HEQ5 PRO Go-To Astronomy Mount
    https://www.firstlightoptics.com/sky...o-synscan.html

    Sky-Watcher Explorer 130P-DS OTA
    https://www.firstlightoptics.com/ref...0p-ds-ota.html

    Sky-Watcher EvoGuide 50ED Guidescope & ZWO ASI120MM-Mini Bundle
    https://www.firstlightoptics.com/gui...mm-bundle.html

    Baader Mark-III MPCC Coma Corrector
    https://www.firstlightoptics.com/com...ader-mpcc.html

    StarSharp Bahtinov Focus Masks (130p)
    https://www.firstlightoptics.com/bah...inov-130p.html

    HoTech SCA laser collimator (1.25 inch)
    https://www.firstlightoptics.com/hot...A_laser-1.html

    Lynx Astro FTDI EQDIR USB Adapter for Sky-Watcher Mounts
    https://www.firstlightoptics.com/sky...q8-mounts.html


    Have I missed something (apart from the camera)? Any recomendation for changes in the list?

    I do have some questions:
    - How do I mount the guidescope? Do I need some additions, like clamps, mounts etc?
    - Would you go for the Eq6 instead of the Heq5?
    - If Heq5, is it worth spending some extra money for the rowan upgraded mount?
    - I was thinking of buying a used Nikon D5300 (for about 280£), or would I be better of with a dedicated astro camera in the same pricerange - like the ZWO ASI 290MC / 178MC?

    Appreciate all inputs

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    Default Re: Total newbie with equipment list - looks ok?

    I don't see a weight for the OTA, so it is hard to estimate the total load. I think you will be close to the upper limit for the HEQ5. An EQ6 would certainly be better.

    The guide scope mounts with a standard finder shoe. So you just remove the stock finder and replace it with the guide scope. If you need a finder, use the live image from the guide camera.

    It sounds like that OTA is set up as an astrograph, so you should be okay with getting a DSLR to focus.

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    Default Re: Total newbie with equipment list - looks ok?

    You've done your homework well!

    That setup will work just fine. Keep in mind that the HEQ5 Pro mount is rated at 15 Kg and they say 11Kg for imaging. I would try to keep my weight at or below 9Kg to be on the safe side. I would also recommend a Canon DSLR as they still have a broader array of software control programs. For the same money, you could get a gently used Canon T3i, which I highly recommend for AP. You'll particularly love the articulating screen.

    For camera software control you have several options: Astrophotography Tool (APT), Backyard EOS/Nikon (BYE or BYN), and Sequence Generator Pro (SGP). The one that has the most bells and whistles is SGP, but it is also the most expensive by far. APT gives you the most bang for your buck.

    I think it's time for you to spend money!

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    Default Re: Total newbie with equipment list - looks ok?

    Thanks for the edvices. I’ve been recomended the evostar 80ED over the 130pds, whats your opinon on that matter?
    Regarding the guidingscope, I guess it would be preferable to get some symetry weight-wise? If I mount the guidingscope where the original finderscope is located on either the 130pds / evostar 80ED, wouldnt it cause some imbalance as the shoe for the finderscope is a bit on the side of the scope?

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    Default Re: Total newbie with equipment list - looks ok?

    Quote Originally Posted by Prognotic View Post
    Regarding the guidingscope, I guess it would be preferable to get some symetry weight-wise? If I mount the guidingscope where the original finderscope is located on either the 130pds / evostar 80ED, wouldnt it cause some imbalance as the shoe for the finderscope is a bit on the side of the scope?
    If the scope is in rings, you just rotate the whole OTA in the rings to get a lateral balance. With a Newt, only some of the asymmetrical load is due to the guide/finder scope. Most of it is from the focuser and camera. You just rotate the whole assembly in the rings until both the focuser and the guider are above the tube. Fiddle with the exact orientation until the mount balances laterally in Declination in the home position.

    A side benefit of this orientation is that it places the focuser in the most versatile and least awkward position for eyepiece viewing (except for looking at Polaris).

    An alternative for balancing is to have the focuser and guider underneath the OTA. However, that is dependent on clearing the mount in the home position. I have my Newt in that orientation, and to clear the mount, I had to slide the rig forward in the dovetail and add a counterweight at the mirror end.

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