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    Default AVX, or Something Better



    I cannot find a discussion like this, so I am going to ask the question. In about 30 days, the company I work for will be paying out the annual bonus. When that happens, I am planning to buy myself a small AP rig. My plan is to start with an imaging newtonian, since I have owned a 12" dob for the last 10 years or so, I know how to feed and care for those, but my question is about the mount. I was considering the Orion Atlas mount, because it is the same as the Skywatcher 6 eq pro, and the best priced mount in that weight class. But then, I look at the AVX and it seems to get pretty high marks and I would only be losing 25% of the load capacity of the Atlas. So my question is, if I buy the AVX, how likely am I to want to upgrade to a 40lb mount any time soon? Is there anyone here who bought the AVX and then wished they had bought the heavier mount? I know I am obsessing about this, but the weather has not let me get outside at all lately so I don't have a lot to take my mind off of it.

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    Default Re: AVX, or Something Better

    I bought the AVX and then wished I had bought a lighter OTA.
    And I did. Best decision I ever made...

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    Default Re: AVX, or Something Better

    Capacity of the AVX will be down to 50-60% as a imaging setup.
    If that will work for you they are a good mount.
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    Default Re: AVX, or Something Better

    I recently purchased a Skywatcher EQ6-R mount (updated version of the 6 EQ-pro). Although I love the performance, it is one heavy sucker - in fact I recently injured my shoulder hefting the mount head in order to attach it to the tripod. Something to keep in mind. :/

    A 6" imaging Newtonian, plus rings, camera, guide scope/camera etc should come in under the recommended 18 lb limit for imaging with the AVX.
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    Default Re: AVX, or Something Better

    You may want to look into the Celestron CGX...
    It's a very nice mount that you are unlikely to outgrow.

    It is not light, nor cheap... But that's AP.
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    Default Re: AVX, or Something Better

    Thanks for the replies everyone. Shelldrake, that is precisely one of my concerns. I am already nursing a shoulder injury. I really don't want to make it worse, and, at 56, things definitely don't heal as fast as they used to. Also, if I can manage to slide in under the wire with this crazy sale that is going on right now, I can afford to get more goodies to go with it.

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    Default Re: AVX, or Something Better

    Hi Tom,

    I bought an AVX, then sold it and bought a Skywatcher NEQ6 Pro. I bought the Skywatcher... because it was a couple hundred cheaper and the exact same as the Atlas... with the only differences being the Orion brand and the white color.

    The AVX is FANTASTIC for the price... light and dependable, and got me through my first few yrs of imaging. Matter of fact, I literally brought that mount imaging across the world and to both sides of the equator and it never let me down!!! I regret selling it to this very day.

    That said, even my small refractor setup evolved into a side-by side rig, which between that and the 8" SCT I got, the AVX did not do so well with the added weight. Although I regret selling the AVX, I DO NOT regret buying the NEQ6. The NEQ6 tracks much smoother than the AVX, it is quieter and is rock solid when guiding. Also, it comes with a polar scope which makes polar aligning a snap.

    As for the weight, I am not a strong guy by any means. The mount head is not that heavy, I routinely lug it from my garage to the backyard and from the back of the Jeep to the tripod when at the dark spot. I can totally see why a shoulder injury, especially if chronic would make this seem tough, in which case I would definitely recommend the lighter weight of the AVX, or get something with wheels to move the mount head.

    If the only choice were one or the other- I'd choose the NEQ6/Atlas. It has better tracking, better features and the extra weight capacity to allow a little bit of growing room, and it isn't that much heavier.

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    Default Re: AVX, or Something Better

    Being an old guy, have two places I can see Polaris, and 2 that I can't, I went for a compromise. The Sirius (Skywatcher) Alt/AZ EQ about $1200 on sale. I do a lot of EAA and have used both the C8 and JEs 102 triplet at the same time. It is belt drive and has two sets of encodes, you move the scope without the HC and it still knows where it is. Get the extension for the pier, need for longer scopes. Rated about the same as a AVX but a much better mount IMHO. And the ability to use it in the Alt/Az mode with one or two scopes is a great benefit.
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    Default Re: AVX, or Something Better

    Well, for anyone following this thread and wondering, like I'm sure all of you were, I ended up buying the AVX and have a 6" imaging newtonian on the way to mate to it. It turns out that the shoulder injury is related to an ongoing cervical spinal arthritis that has been plaguing me for years, so it looks like I may be stuck with a delicate shoulder from here on out. So light weight is the theme of the day, and the AVX certainly is that. Now if it would just get clear and tolerably cold (as opposed to stupidly cold) I do have a small doublet refractor that mates nicely to it so at the very least I could do an alignment with it for real, in the "wild".

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    Default Re: AVX, or Something Better

    Enjoy the new telescope when it arrives.
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