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    Default Once upon a time an Astronomer wanted to take some photos



    This is all tongue in cheek and meant to be funny and an expression of my gratitude for all the help I've gotten here.

    Once upon a time an Astronomer wanted to take some photos through his telescope.

    He asked on an online forum, "how do I do it"?

    Lots of helpful people responded and answered, "that depends on your goals and budget".

    The Astronomer didn't know anything about astrophotography and just answered, that he'd seen lots of nice photos online and wanted to get into astrophotography.

    The next day, he checked his online query and now the responses were, "it takes a long time to learn".

    Well, the Astronomer said, "I have a XYZ camera, can I use it?"

    And online he learned, he could either take photos afocally or at prime focus.

    "Prime focus!?" he said, "what is that"?

    Take a look at the "stickies" he heard, so he looked under his desk for one of those pieces of gum the former owner had placed there.

    Eventually he bought a scope and camera and took some photos and all his photos had long streaks instead of pinpoint stars.

    "You need to polar align your scope better", he heard

    But how? - and online he read, "it takes a long time".

    Then he decided to reduce his exposure time to reduce the streaks and asked, "how do I stack the photos?"

    And he heard back online, "it takes a long time"

    Finally he tried some software and noticed it did not work so well, and he learned, "oh, you need the beta release of that software"

    So he wrote, "where do I find that"

    And he heard back "it takes a long time"

    In my case, my goals were to take some nice colorful shots of nebulae with a Canon T2i via an Orion 10" Newtonian reflector on an Atlas mount. I used DSS and learned the released version had problems so I joined Yahoo Groups to get the beta. After lots of help here from Keith, I figured out my polar alignments were good, but the alignment of my polar scope to the mount was bad. After a year of trying, my shots of Orion are cool. I finally feel I can confidently predict good results on a night of imaging.

    I am still learning, but I am really excited about the rise of the Lagoon Nebula this summer. The Ring Nebula and Dumbell are on my list. But most of all I seek better shots of the Veil Nebula.

    Thanks to you all for the help getting this far - "it took a long time".

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    Default Re: Once upon a time an Astronomer wanted to take some photos

    The victory is all the sweeter, for the trials and errors. Hooray~!
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    Default Re: Once upon a time an Astronomer wanted to take some photos

    That probably is a great description of going down the AP slippery slope.
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    Default Re: Once upon a time an Astronomer wanted to take some photos

    Quote Originally Posted by lsinkay View Post
    The victory is all the sweeter, for the trials and errors. Hooray~!
    Thanks Linda - by the way for anyone reading - it is Linda's scope and camera that we're using to get the photos I've mentioned
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    Default Re: Once upon a time an Astronomer wanted to take some photos

    I smiled all the way through your post! Patience and perseverance always pays off. I will constantly remind myself of that as I get started soon with my own AP adventure. Looking forward to seeing your future images!
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    I have so much to learn! But I'm so excited about this journey...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LouAnnPeet View Post
    I smiled all the way through your post! Patience and perseverance always pays off. I will constantly remind myself of that as I get started soon with my own AP adventure. Looking forward to seeing your future images!
    Here's our best Orion shot from the last new moon.

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    Absolutely beautiful! You inspire me! Can't wait to get started. Thank you for sharing!
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    Default Re: Once upon a time an Astronomer wanted to take some photos

    Hello Jim. Boy did you hit the nail on the head. I guess all of this analysis "took a long time". Thanks for your report, as it was an accurate and fun read. Best wishes for clear skies.
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    Jim, I thoroughly enjoyed that very much.....spot on and well done. Thank you for sharing it!
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    Default Re: Once upon a time an Astronomer wanted to take some photos

    I have gotten so much help here, but I can't help think "there must be a better way". Problem solving with so little knowledge is tough and AP is tough. KeithBC's advice has been invaluable, and I have to think there still must be a better way. To that end, if someone is this forum wanted help more interactively than once or twice each new moon, I'd be happy to speak on the phone about AP in detail.

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    Jim, I thoroughly enjoyed that very much.....spot on and well done. Thank you for sharing it!

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