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    oriel36 wrote:


    With an earth orbital eccentricity of 0 and the polar axis 90°, with
    respect to the plane of the ecliptic, the earth would have no annual
    seasons whatsoever. There might be a measurable effect of roughly
    eleven years due to the solar cycle.

    The earth's orbital eccentricity is currently 0.0167 (slight ellipse).
    But the major cause of annual seasons, as the earth falls around the
    sun, is due to the axial tilt of 23°+ causing extra warming in one
    hemisphere followed by extra warming the the other hemisphere six
    months later.

    Even little school children can understand this basic concept, Gerald,
    of which you appear to have so much trouble.




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    oriel36 wrote:

    To have seasons there must be a *significant* variation in the amount of
    solar 'insolation' reaching the earth's surface during the course of a
    year, particularly at higher latitudes. The small variation in
    insolation caused by the eccentricity of the earth's orbit is not
    sufficient to explain the seasons. The answer is the annual cycle of the
    angle of incidence at which the sun's light strikes the surface of the
    earth. That angle is closer to perpendicular in the summer (more
    insolation) and closer to parallel in winter (less insolation). This can
    *only* be caused by the tilt of the earth's rotational axis remaining
    fixed in space as it orbits the sun.

    Did you do the 'experiment' Gerald? You didn't even mention it in your
    reply. I'll send you a gyroscope. It might be an eye opener for you but
    I guess you need to avoid that at all costs.

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    On Sep 19, 10:18 am, oriel36 <kelleher.ger...@gmail.com> wrote:


    This is pure bullshit Gerald!! You could write a paper to any one of
    the many scientific journals that exist. Present the data you have
    collected, show your methodology and results. If there is any truth to
    what you say, you paper will get published. You could write an article
    for Scientific American with your proof. Again if you can support it
    will get published. The problem is you cann't prove any of the drivel
    you post because it is incoherent.

    I wish you you wouldn't libel Copernicus, What he said is consistent
    with observations anyone can make. Go out every clear night and
    measure the altitude and azimuth of Polaris, note it doesn't change
    over 1 year. Use a watch and measure the time it takes for a star to
    return to the same place in the sky as measured by it's altitude and
    azimuth. Lo and behold it takes 23.9344696 hours,




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    On Sep 19, 9:38 am, oriel36 <kelleher.ger...@gmail.com> wrote:


    Not only are you NOT correct, I know that YOU know you are not
    correct, your only goal here is to stir things up once again.

    This whole topic is just too simple to understand, and we both know
    that you are not nearly as stupid as you appear to be.

    Your game is over, Gerald, you have been found-out.

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    oriel36 wrote:


    http://edu-observatory.edu/mcc/homew....Rey.orbit.gif

    With an earth orbital eccentricity of 0 and the polar axis 90°, with
    respect to the plane of the ecliptic, the earth would have no annual
    seasons whatsoever. There might be a measurable effect of roughly
    eleven years due to the solar cycle.

    http://edu-observatory.edu/mcc/homew....Rey.orbit.gif

    The earth's orbital eccentricity is currently 0.0167 (slight ellipse).
    But the major cause of annual seasons, as the earth falls around the
    sun, is due to the axial tilt of 23°+ causing extra warming in one
    hemisphere followed by extra warming the the other hemisphere six
    months later.

    Even little school children can understand this basic concept, Gerald,
    of which you appear to have so much trouble.

    http://edu-observatory.edu/mcc/homew....Rey.orbit.gif



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    oriel36 wrote:



    With an earth orbital eccentricity of 0 and the polar axis 90°, with
    respect to the plane of the ecliptic, the earth would have no annual
    seasons whatsoever. There might be a measurable effect of roughly
    eleven years due to the solar cycle.

    http://edu-observatory.org/mcc/homew....Rey.orbit.gif

    The earth's orbital eccentricity is currently 0.0167 (slight ellipse).
    But the major cause of annual seasons, as the earth falls around the
    sun, is due to the axial tilt of 23°+ causing extra warming in one
    hemisphere followed by extra warming the the other hemisphere six
    months later.

    Even little school children can understand this basic concept, Gerald,
    of which you appear to have so much trouble.

    http://edu-observatory.org/mcc/homew....Rey.orbit.gif





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    oriel36 wrote:

    It's OK, Gerald, We understand that you don't have the education to
    comprehend mathematics and celestial mechanics... nor the simple
    concept of a tilted axial rotation can have a huge effect in the form
    of seasonal climate.

    You can do battle with the rest of the world, but what's the point in
    that?




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    On Sep 27, 12:52 pm, oriel36 <kelleher.ger...@gmail.com> wrote:

    The only talent you possess is the talent to jerk everyone's chain and
    continuously stir the pot in the direction you want to see it stirred.
    We both know that you understand perfectly well the simple dynamics
    being discussed here and only present contrary views to keep the pot
    boiling.

    You are predictably unwilling to answer simple questions, especially
    those that only require a YES or a NO answer. To do so would
    eventually lead to the unraveling of your wispy and tenuous theories,
    which the rest of us already know are 100% inaccurate, and are only
    offered to keep your little game going.

    The reality in these forums is that you have nothing whatsoever to
    offer, and you wouldn't last 2 minutes on any moderated forum, which
    is a pleasant thought.

    \Paul Alsing

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    Sam Wormley wrote:


    Has Gerald ever mentioned anything about his personal life, such as how
    he supports himself or his living conditions? I'm still going on the
    theory that he is living in a structured environment, to put it
    politely. Does anybody know his geographical location?

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    In article
    <b3fad6b2-e61a-4051-9816-9290fdac819b@i4g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
    Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:


    You've got to admit its motto, "the method of science with the aims of
    religion", has a nice ring to it.

    --
    Odysseus

 

 
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