Astronomy cast

[Mark F.]

I was listening to astronomy cast yesterday and they where doing a show
about how to be taken seriously by scientist.
And I quote Dr. Pamela L. Gay , if you a nut and what me to do all your work
(calculation, write papers) for you and for free.
Don't bother sending it to me. I did not ask for it.

This had me thinking about all the crack pots running around the internet.
Are most of these people real or is it someone just
having a laugh at us.
I mean the dude with the skull found in the coal, or the fossils on mars
dude, bad science, is bad science.......

anyway I'm going to take some Prozac and lay down now..

Mark




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There is no greater fan of fly fishing than the worm.

[yourmommycalled]

On Sep 6, 1:02*am, "Mark F." <m....@gte.net> wrote:

A long time ago (maybe even in a galaxy far far away) you could make a
USENET post and within a few minutes get a correct answer to your
question. Unfortunately Al Gore created the Internet as we now know
it. Translated that means that anybody who has enough active brain
cells to get to a public library can spread their drool and raise
noise level to the point where the Internet is nearly useless. The
Internet is now populated by the likes of Ed, Fossil, Nancy, Daniel,
Brad, AJ, Peter, Marvin, Gerald and a host of other people who never
got beyond third grade. Although I still use the "Internet" to read
USENET news, most of the work I do is done on Internet/2 which does
not allow morons. A newer Sun Workstation with a 10gE connection to
Internet/2 helps immensely

[John Nichols]

"yourmommycalled" <mommycalled@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5a601ba4-4786-4acc-b009-6d6ccf62b9f7@38g2000yqr.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 6, 1:02 am, "Mark F." <m....@gte.net> wrote:

A long time ago (maybe even in a galaxy far far away) you could make a
USENET post and within a few minutes get a correct answer to your
question. Unfortunately Al Gore created the Internet as we now know
it. Translated that means that anybody who has enough active brain
cells to get to a public library can spread their drool and raise
noise level to the point where the Internet is nearly useless. The
Internet is now populated by the likes of Ed, Fossil, Nancy, Daniel,
Brad, AJ, Peter, Marvin, Gerald and a host of other people who never
got beyond third grade. Although I still use the "Internet" to read
USENET news, most of the work I do is done on Internet/2 which does
not allow morons. A newer Sun Workstation with a 10gE connection to
Internet/2 helps immensely

I listened to that podcast a couple of weeks ago, and want to add to what
MarkF said, as I think he inadvertantly left it out, and mommy is probably
aware of it. Dr. Gay also said in that same podcast that having brains and
advanced education does NOT preclude someone from being a nutter. Lots of
Ph.D.s who are cranks. Nut is nuts, IOW.

[yourmommycalled]

On Sep 6, 10:58*am, "Chris.B" <chri...@nypost.dk> wrote:

Actually Internet/2 is a not-for-profit advanced networking consortium
comprising more than 200 U.S. universities in cooperation with 70
leading corporations, 45 government agencies, laboratories and other
institutions of higher learning as well as over 50 international
partner organizations. One of the nice things about Internet/2 is that
you get 10 Gigabit Ethernet standard and NO SPAM, wingnuts or gasbags.
Think of uploading a multi gigabyte files in a few seconds.

[Sam Wormley]

Davoud wrote:


Some good reading for those that want to know more.

Mac OS X Malware Analysis:
http://www.sans.org/reading_room/whi...analysis_33178

[Chris L Peterson]

Macs are becoming less secure (for a variety of reasons- the OS is
becoming more complex, attacks using secondary apps are becoming more
widespread, there are enough of them in some environments to make them
an interesting target, Windows is getting to be a much more difficult
target, so hackers are looking wider), and Windows systems are becoming
more secure. Ultimately, I expect the two will converge somewhere, with
all systems being relatively secure, but all still having exploitable
vulnerabilities, occasionally serious.
_________________________________________________

Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com

[yourmommycalled]

On Sep 7, 11:34*am, Davoud <s...@sky.net> wrote:


Davoud, if you are going to make a statement about the security of
Microsoft windows at least be accurate about how long an unprotected
windows based computer will remain uncompromised. The Internet Storm
center reports that the average uncompromised lifetime of a windows
computer between January 1, 2009 and September 6, 2009 is 5 minutes.
On August 31, 2009 the average survival time was UNDER ONE MINUTE.
They note this number is as HIGH AS IT IS because many ISPs
aggressively pre-filter packets to remove those with the common
malware/spyware/trojans and thus those windows computers using these
ISPs last longer than they would otherwise.

Chris, you are partly correct that as Mac-OSX and other Unix based
machines become more complex that there will be an increased risk of
attack, however, the design of WIndows is so bad that you cannot plug
all the holes. OpenBSD has had only two security holes discovered
since 1996, windows has had that many holes discovered in the last ten
minutes. Windows is just a bad joke.

[Chris L Peterson]

On Mon, 7 Sep 2009 12:20:34 -0700 (PDT), yourmommycalled
<mommycalled@gmail.com> wrote:


I consider Windows XP, when properly set up, pretty near bulletproof. I
maintain a network of about 20 computers in a school setting, a handful
of computers at my home, and keep an eye on another handful for friends.
None of them use any security software at all, and none have ever had
any problems (except the school computers, until we blocked the use of
Internet Explorer a few years ago). I can't help but wonder what a
"compromised computer" means, or what its starting state was when
compromised.

The weakness in Windows isn't its design as such, but the fact that so
many people run it with high privileges and don't keep it updated.
That's a problem for sure, and it shouldn't really be one- but it's
getting better.

If you're running an up-to-date version of Windows XP or later, and know
what you're doing, you are not going to find your system compromised.
From an underlying design standpoint, I'll take Windows over any *nix
based system any day.
_________________________________________________

Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com

[Sam Wormley]

Davoud wrote:

Microsoft has always given me the willies... I've been a Unix, Linux,
Mac user for almost 20 years now. When ever I bought a PC, Linux was
being installed within 30 seconds!

[yourmommycalled]

On Sep 7, 4:21*pm, Chris L Peterson <c...@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote: