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    Default Orion Skyquest XT10 Classic vs. XT10 Intelliscope



    Hi, I know that the Orion XT10s were redesigned into the
    "intelliscope" model. The Intelliscope comes with or without the
    computerized object finder. I'm interested in model without the
    object finder, but I know someone who is selling a used classic
    model. Can anyone tell me what the practical differences are between
    the classic and the intelliscope. I don't care about cosmetics. I do
    care about mechanics, finder scope and eyepieces.

    Anyway, I'm hoping someone has some experience with these models?
    Thanks for the help.

    Of course if you can point me to some reviews contrasting these two
    models that would be much appreciated.

    Thank you,

    Jim

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    Default Orion Skyquest XT10 Classic vs. XT10 Intelliscope

    On Jun 23, 10:03 am, Jim Rainfordson <jimrainford...@yahoo.com> wrote:

    The scopes are the same. Only difference is that, in the base of the
    Intelliscope model, are encoders that follow the up-down, right-left
    movement and tell the handheld computer where the scope is pointed.

    I have an XT-12 Intelliscope with the handheld computer . I use the
    computer only about 1/4 of the time, but, when I need it, I need it.
    The Intelliscope version is a few bucks more, add the handheld
    computer later -- I'd recommend getting the Intelliscope version just
    in case.


    On the other hand, if the used one is in good shape and the price is
    attractive, go for it. You likely could always sell it for close to
    what you paid for it if you wanted to upgrade to the Intelliscope --
    no, you cannot add the encoders to the Classic version, must buy the
    Intelliscope to start with.

    I had a classic version XT-8 that I lost in Hurricane Katrina and I
    loved it -- readily portable, big enough to capture deep sky objects
    (under good seeing conditions). I REALLY like my XT-12 -- but -- the
    damn thing is BIG!!!!! XT-10 is bigger than the XT-8 but it's not the
    monster that the XT-12 is.





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    Default Orion Skyquest XT10 Classic vs. XT10 Intelliscope

    Thanks. Those were helpful!

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    Default Orion Skyquest XT10 Classic vs. XT10 Intelliscope

    On Jun 24, 12:03 pm, Jim Rainfordson <jimrainford...@yahoo.com> wrote:



    The eyepiece holder on the older scope DOES allow both 2" and 1.25"
    eyepieces. The holder is made for 2" eyepieces and it comes with a
    sleeve that holds 1.25" eyepieces -- this arrangement is standard on
    all Orion Dobs -- and every other Dob I have seen.

    Unless the mirror has been subjected to abuse of some kind you should
    not need to have the mirror recoated for years, maybe never. If the
    previous owner tried to clean the mirror he may have damaged it
    because the coating is on the visible surface of the mirror and you
    should keep your hands off it.


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    Default Orion Skyquest XT10 Classic vs. XT10 Intelliscope

    On Jun 24, 9:39 pm, Jim Rainfordson <jimrainford...@yahoo.com> wrote:

    Yes -- I don't recall the details but the "magic slider" had something
    to do with cutting out pieces of plastic milk jugs and putting them on
    the parts of the Dob base that slid over each other. That plastic
    apparently is very slippery and it helps the Dob move more smoothly.

    You might find something here:
    http://www.telescopejunkies.com/foru...iew.asp?fid=16

    Or here:
    http://www.telescopereviews.com/ubbt...Number/2302382

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    Default Orion Skyquest XT10 Classic vs. XT10 Intelliscope

    Thanks again Kickass. I still haven't found that exact article, but I
    got enough bits and pieces and other ideas about it that I should be
    okay. For the record, rather than being a surface on which to glide,
    I think the milk carton washers were more to jack up the telescope and
    take a little weight off the teflon. You got the right idea though.

    Anyway, thanks for all the help and info. I just bought it for $360.
    It doesn't come with the lasermate collimator, but it does have a
    luner filter and 2x3-element barlow plus eyepiece neither of which are
    included in the newer version of the "classic". I didn't shop around
    too much, but I figure a new XT10 classic purchased online and shipped
    to me would be about $570.

    Thanks again,
    Jim

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    Default Orion Skyquest XT10 Classic vs. XT10 Intelliscope

    > It doesn't come with the lasermate collimator, but it does have a

    You can collimate without a laser, but I find that collimating with (a good)
    one is the way to go. Get one from Howie Glatter. Whatever method you
    choose, be sure to check the collimation frequently. It should take just a
    couple of minutes to do, and is crucial to getting good views.

    Dennis



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    Default Orion Skyquest XT10 Classic vs. XT10 Intelliscope

    Dennis,


    Well, I'm gonna try it manually first. I actually built my own
    telescope years ago in high school (6" dob) so I'm a little bit
    familiar with the procedure. However, with this 10" I imagine I'll
    be doing a lot of walking back and forth to adjust the main mirror.
    (my wife is zero help in this kind of situation... left, no my
    left.... i said COUNTER clockwise...etc).

    Anyway, the Howie Glatter's look rather pricey. Not sure I want to
    spend a min of $100 on my $360 telescope. I've found the obvious
    telescope.com and telescopes.com, but can you tell me some of the
    better online stores for telescope optics? I guess I really need to
    join a club and get in the know.

    Seeing how this thread is already totally off target at this point,
    what's the general price range to have a mirror re-aluminized? Don't
    think I'll need it, but I'm curious.

    Thanks for the info Dennis.

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    Default Orion Skyquest XT10 Classic vs. XT10 Intelliscope

    > Anyway, the Howie Glatter's look rather pricey. Not sure I want to

    They aren't inexpensive, but they are extremely well made. My first laser
    collimator was homemade - a laser pointer in an aluminum tube with
    adjustment/alignment screws. After messing around with this, and a cheap
    Orion laser collimator that our club owns, I felt that I was wasting a lot
    of time collimating largely because my collimator was flakey. Also, I wanted
    to be able to help other folks to collimate their various kinds of scopes
    (in the dark), and so the grid that Howie sells as an accessory was
    attractive. Maybe you don't need a laser, and will find some other method
    that works well for you. However, if you do ever want a laser I strongly
    recommend checking out Howie's stuff. A good laser collimator will more than
    last your lifetime, and you will appreciate its value every time you are out
    with your scope and are getting great views.

    Whatever you do, don't neglect to collimate. And don't buy a cheap laser
    collimator.

    Dennis



 

 

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