Animated image of Solar System

Hello, I am looking for one image, if it possible being animated, of
our Solar System, concretely what I looking for is the movement of
planets around the Sun, it is for a work of class, I am making a Web
for children it explains the Solar System and movement of planets
around the Sun, if it possible that the image contains the name of the
planets, and nonencounter no animated image of the movement of planets
around the sun, and I do not have time to put to me to do them in Flash
since I have much work.

Thank you very much.

Here are real images of the faster Earth overtaking the slower Jupiter
and the even slower Saturn on our and their motion around the Sun -

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ima...2000_tezel.gif

Using the time lapse footage above, tell your students to imagine cars
going around a big roundabout where a car in an inner lane (Earth)
overtaking slower moving cars
( Saturn and Jupiter) gives the same effect as the Earth going around
the Sun (center of the traffic roundabout)_and they will love you for
the rest of their existence.

Unfortunately all the participants here adhere to an incorrect way to
deal with the above motions.

"Obi-Wan" <[Registered users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:1142504166.221648.73550@p10g2000cwp.googlegro ups.com...

Assuming you've gotten through Gerald's screed without becoming
disillusioned about the helpfulness of this NG, I googled "solar systm
animation" and came up with some interesting hits:

[Registered users can see links. ] A Java script animation
[Registered users can see links. ] The current
positions of the planets
[Registered users can see links. ] Solar system
animation that includes main belt an near Earth asteroids (a little
confusing to a novice, perhaps, due to the apparent density of asteroid
"dots".)

A separate google search turned up:
[Registered users can see links. ] A compendium of freeware
planetarium programs, the best of which is generally considered to be
"Cartes du Ciel"

Hope these help...

John

To John

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ima...2000_tezel.gif

" [Here Salviati explains Jupiter's motion, then follows with:]

Now what is said here of Jupiter is to be understood of Saturn and
Mars also. In Saturn these retrogressions are somewhat more frequent
than in Jupiter, because its motion is slower than Jupiter's, so that
the Earth overtakes it in a shorter time. In Mars they are rarer, its
motion being faster than that of Jupiter, so that the Earth spends more
time in catching up with it. Next, as to Venus and Mercury, whose
circles are included within that of the Earth, stoppings and retrograde
motions appear in them also, due not to any motion that really exists
in them, but to the annual motion of the Earth. This is acutely
demonstrated by Copernicus . . .

You see, gentlemen, with what ease and simplicity the annual motion --
if made by the Earth -- lends itself to supplying reasons for the
apparent anomalies which are observed in the movements of the five
planets. . . . It removes them all and reduces these movements to
equable and regular motions; and it was Nicholas Copernicus who first
clarified for us the reasons for this marvelous effect." 1632, Dialogue
Concerning the Two Chief World Systems GALILEO


" The Symmetry of the Universe


"32 In this arrangement, therefore, we discover a marvelous symmetry

of the universe, and an established harmonious linkage between the
motion of the spheres and their size, such as can be found in no other
way. For this permits a not inattentive student to perceive why the
forward and backward arcs appear greater in Jupiter than in Saturn and
smaller than in Mars, and on the other hand greater in Venus than in
Mercury. This reversal in direction appears more frequently in Saturn
than in Jupiter, and also more rarely in Mars and Venus than in
Mercury" COPERNICUS

The websites you reference is a third-hand account of heliocentricity
and even then it is quasi-geocentric through retaining the Ra/Dec
system putting it in conflict with the exquisite reasoning which
resolves plotted retrogrades through the orbital motion of the
Earth.That John is astronomy !.

Kepler had something to see for the geometers/mathematicians who render
planetary motion in the way that suits you and your colleagues,insofar
as it is the lowest rung on the astronomical ladder -

"To set down in books the apparent paths of the planets [viasplanetarum

apparentes] and the record of their motions is especiallythe task of
the practical and mechanical part of astronomy; to dis-cover their true

and genuine path [vias vero veras et genuinas] is . . .the task of
contemplative astronomy; while to say by what circleand lines correct
images of those true motions may be depicted onpaper is the concern of
the inferior tribunal of geometers" KEPLER

If Obi-Wan wishes to appreceate the motion of planets in the solar
system he had better stay away from this forum,no offence,but to
appreceate how Copernicus worked it out is not unduly difficult yet
mathematicians have no feeling for how it is done and go about withg a
really dumb view.

To John

The websites you reference cannot replace going outside and at least
attempting to put the Earth's orbital motion into correct
perspective,that John is astronomy !.

Kepler had something to say regarding people who endlessly put the
solar system into a geometer's view which lacks the feel and excitement
of going outside and appreceating heliocentric orbital motion and
indeed the websites and applications you reference reflect the lowest
rung on the astronomical ladder.Unfortunately the way Newtonians
conceive heliocentric motion they have already fallen off the lowest
rung !.

"To set down in books the apparent paths of the planets [viasplanetarum

apparentes] and the record of their motions is especiallythe task of
the practical and mechanical part of astronomy; to dis-cover their true

and genuine path [vias vero veras et genuinas] is . . .the task of
contemplative astronomy; while to say by what circleand lines correct
images of those true motions may be depicted onpaper is the concern of
the inferior tribunal of geometers" KEPLER

Obi - Wan should have many versions of the reasoning behind Copernican
heliocentricity but after Newton,the correct descriptions disappears -

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ima...2000_tezel.gif

They disappear because of one really silly thing that should have been
picked up centuries ago but the error was allowed to snowball for 3
centuries -

"For to the earth planetary motions appear sometimes direct, sometimes
stationary, nay, and sometimes retrograde. But from the sun they are
always seen direct.." Newton.

A person here can call himself an astronomer by recognising that
lumping retrogrades in with geocentricity is not a good idea nor is
jumping to the Sun to explain them a particularly bright way to explain
orbital motion.Now,Obi - Wan,with the help of time lapse footage can
help undo a lot of Newtonian damage and thrill his students with a
correct description of planetarty heliocentric motion.You can too if
you can get beyond the bogus Newtonian description.

Obi-Wan wrote:

Feel welcome to use this animated GIF (doesn't display well in
IE (Microsoft Internet Explorer) 6, though, but works well using
Firefox):

<http://thadlabs.com/ASTRO/Ephemeris/>

The GIF file (alone) is:

<http://thadlabs.com/ASTRO/Ephemeris/ss_anim.gif>

bash> ll ss_anim.gif
-rw-r--r-- 1 thad thad 783622 Feb 5 19:36 ss_anim.gif

The animation runs from Jan.1, 2006 to July 1, 2035 to cover
just a wee bit more than one revolution by Saturn around the Sun.

> to put the Earth's orbital motion into correct

If that's astronomy, then I'll pass, I'll stick to the amateur version
where I can usually be found watching the ever changing planets, Moon
and Sun.

Obi-Wan wrote:

Dear Obi-Wan:

(Also discussed in this usenet group in thread "real time maps of our
solar system" 12/19/2005.)

NASA Solar System Simulator
[Registered users can see links. ]

A variety of stand-alone software packages include or can be coaxed
into an orrery view of looking down on the solar system from the North
Celestial Pole. Freeware packages that come to mind are:

Celestia
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Xephem
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Cartes du Ciel
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Referred to by others -
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Home Planet
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- Canopus56

To Ed

Indeed you do pass like so many others even though there is nothing
difficult,using contemporary time lapse footage,in enjoying how
Copernicus worked out that the Earth moved by overtaking the slower
moving outer planets.

[Registered users can see links. ]

Although the excellent explanation using those images is spoiled by the
Newtonian infection,it remains the best way to explain heliocentricity
to teenagers by using real images based on a moving Earth.

Scale is the really difficult part insofar as few get a real feel for
the scale of our parent star or just how enormous our annual orbital
motion is in terms of distance.Yet again,contemporary images make this
part easier to grasp.Using the transit of Venus passing before the
Sun,students can get a good idea just how big our Sun actually is.

Venus is comparable in size to the Earth and the transit is an
excellent way to appreceate our annual heliocentric orbital motion by
another means and especially the faster Jupiter overtaking our orbital
position in a slower orbital lane -

http://www.astrosurf.org/lombry/Docu...furlanetto.gif

Astronomy is more than a celestial peep show for optical astronomers
,it contains the most intricate and enjoyable features when they are
made simple to those who love these things.

To Ed

Indeed you do pass like so many others even though there is nothing
difficult,using contemporary time lapse footage,in enjoying how
Copernicus worked out that the Earth moved by overtaking the slower
moving outer planets.


[Registered users can see links. ]


Although the excellent explanation using those images is spoiled by the

Newtonian infection,it remains the best way to explain heliocentricity
to teenagers by using real images based on a moving Earth.


Scale is the really difficult part insofar as few get a real feel for
the scale of our parent star or just how enormous our annual orbital
motion is in terms of distance.Yet again,contemporary images make this
part easier to grasp.Using the transit of Venus passing before the
Sun,students can get a good idea just how big our Sun actually is.


Venus is comparable in size to the Earth and the transit is an
excellent way to appreceate our annual heliocentric orbital motion by
another means and especially the faster Venus overtaking our orbital
position in a slower orbital lane -


[Registered users can see links. ]...



Astronomy is more than a celestial peep show for optical astronomers
,it contains the most intricate and enjoyable features when they are
made simple to those who love these things.