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    On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:56:23 GMT, Richard DeLuca <odyssey@-nospam-stny.rr.com> ...reflected:


    I'm hoping for a reissue, which would satisfy both of us, I expect.


    I'll not hold me breath on those, but you most certainly will be getting a
    first-class mounting, and to the point whereby you simply must be joyfully
    lulling yourself to sleep each and every night whilst meditating upon it
    and its imminent arrival, and with sweeter promises few have made
    and fewer have kept!


    Alan

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    On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 12:03:09 +0900, Trane Francks <trane@gol.com> ...reflected:


    You should get out of Japan. It's obviously too expensive for most
    everyone. What, as a Canadian, are you doing there anyway?

    Then and only then might your dreams become realities.

    Alan

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    On 12/16/03 14:45 +0900, Alan W. Craft wrote:



    I found an occupational niche as a software engineer specializing
    in localization of Japanese software for the automotive
    industry. From time to time, I also write customer-specific
    software, such as interfaces to connect special measurement
    devices to our test bed automation systems. Occasionally, I get
    to play with F-1 or Indy development test beds. The sound of an
    F-1 engine is pretty heady stuff when you're just on the other
    side of the glass.


    I appreciate the sentiment more than you might imagine. Following
    my dreams was what brought me to Japan -- I came here to marry
    that young lady I met and fell in love with in Toronto. We've got
    three beautiful kids and my dreams now revolve around giving them
    all the love and support I can to send them off well prepared for
    their own marvelous adventures.

    Ten-thousand dollar telescopes appeal to me in the same fashion
    as a pristine XLCR 1000 Cafe Racer or Dino -- I love them for
    what they are and what they represent, but they are destined to
    remain well beyond my means because I have other priorities. I
    chose to spend ~US$1,000/month on private-school tuition for my
    kids over the accumulation of toys. Once the kids are grown up
    and I can retire, I'll take a jazz/fusion band on the road and
    grow old as groovily as I can. Emphasis on groove, baby.

    trane
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    //------------------------------------------------------------
    // Trane Francks trane@gol.com Tokyo, Japan
    // Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty.


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    Default FS- Zeiss Abbe Orthos

    In article <8q4ttv0gmmota8iubv8fssoqae5dq78poc@4ax.com>,
    Alan W. Craft <mauritius4@hotmail.com> wrote:



    Alan,

    I don't know if your respect for the Zeiss Abbes is based on your
    personal experience, or the hype. In my opinion, part of their
    legendary performance is just that- hype. Sure, they're wonderful
    eyepieces, but there's nothing mystical about them.

    Starry Skies,
    Rich

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    Default FS- Zeiss Abbe Orthos

    >I don't know if your respect for the Zeiss Abbes is based on your

    Their performance is in part due to high quality coatings, very clear glass and
    internal cleanliness - this would impact planetary contrast. As far as optical
    performance, they have similar field of view and off-axis performance to other
    high quality Orthos and Plossls.

    Sometimes the real reason for a product's performance edge is not so easy to
    quantify.

    Roland Christen

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    Default FS- Zeiss Abbe Orthos

    On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:45:06 GMT, Richard DeLuca <odyssey@-nospam-stny.rr.com> ...reflected:


    Alas, hype is all I have to go by, but then that's supplemented
    with the knowledge that the Germans are to optics as the Chinese
    are to silk, that is, if those particular Zeiss oculars were made in
    Germany.


    Did you ever observe with them in conjunction with a fine refractor,
    or with a SCT or the like?


    I understand...metal and glass...products born of the soil, BUT
    WHAT FASHIONING AFTERWARDS!


    Alan

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    Default FS- Zeiss Abbe Orthos

    >> Alas, hype is all I have to go by, but then that's supplemented
    with the knowledge that the Germans are to optics as the Chinese
    are to silk, that is, if those particular Zeiss oculars were made in
    Germany.>>

    Yes, all the Zeiss Abbe Orthos were made in Germany, by opticians in Jena.

    Roland Christen

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    Default FS- Zeiss Abbe Orthos

    On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:17:15 +0900, Trane Francks <trane@gol.com> ...reflected:


    I suspect that it is your wife who insists upon remaining in Japan,
    as my brother himself married an Asian; a Filipino; though she's here
    in the States, willfully yet reluctantly.

    You're content not to rock the boat, I expect.


    I see. Astronomy is only to tide you over until then.

    Alan

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    Default FS- Zeiss Abbe Orthos

    When Roland Christen's new planetary eyepieces are available,

    I am willing to bet that Roland Christen is not going to get rid of
    his Zeiss Orthoscopics, even if his new planetary eyepieces equal or
    outperform the Zeiss. You can always buy an AP mount for a little over
    the original cost, but you may have a real hard time finding the Zeiss
    at three to four times the original price.

    Thanks,
    Vahe

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    Default (OT) Life Choices [ Was Re: FS- Zeiss Abbe Orthos ]

    On 12/17/03 10:42 +0900, Alan W. Craft wrote:


    My wife hasn't insisted on anything. The issues of where to raise
    a mixed-culture family are complex and the consequences of a
    misstep are not insignificant. More correctly, therefore, I'm
    content to make decisions with my wife that we believe will best
    benefit the family as a whole. One day, such a decision may
    entail moving the family to another country. Not today.


    LOL -- Just where did you get THAT idea? I play in three "very
    part-time" bands now and gig a couple of times/year with each.
    Astronomy and music need not be mutually exclusive. Indeed, both
    pursuits offer very unique rewards. The comment above reflects a
    planned shift from music as a hobby to music as a career.
    Astronomy, I expect, will remain part of the picture. Why should
    it not?

    trane
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    //------------------------------------------------------------
    // Trane Francks trane@gol.com Tokyo, Japan
    // Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty.


 

 
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