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    Default Meade Series 4000 Super Plossls VS. TeleVue Plossl..??



    I have not had any of the SPs for a LONG time (since they are now the
    4 element design), how do they compare to my TeleVue Plossls???
    Thanks,
    David
    PS. I posted this question yesterday, but it must of self-nuked off
    Google??..oh well...

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    Default Meade Series 4000 Super Plossls VS. TeleVue Plossl..??

    >I have not had any of the SPs for a LONG time (since they are now the

    Hi:

    I belive the TV plossls are considerably better now. From what I can tell, the
    SPs are no better than any other Chinese import plossls. That is, fine, good,
    but not what they used to be.

    Peace,
    Rod Mollise
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    Default Meade Series 4000 Super Plossls VS. TeleVue Plossl..??

    I have some of both. The Meade SP's aren't bad, but you can notice a
    difference and I always prefer the TV. I think the TV Plossls are one of
    the best values in astronomy hardware.
    Doc



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    Default Meade Series 4000 Super Plossls VS. TeleVue Plossl..??

    On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 03:34:33 GMT, "Doc" <doc604@yahoo.com> wrote:


    Save the standard 11mm, as the eye relief is virtually nonexistent,
    and measurably worse than a 4mm UO orthoscopic, the shortest of its
    series.

    I do like my 40mm 1.25" TeleVue Plossl, however, but just.

    Alan

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    Default Meade Series 4000 Super Plossls VS. TeleVue Plossl..??

    >I have not had any of the SPs for a LONG time (since they are now the


    Sky and Telescope tested quite a number of Plossls including the Televue, Meade
    4000's, the Celestron Ultimas and several others. This was published in the
    April 1996 edition, I would guess that at that time Super Plossls were still
    Super.

    Anyway, they liked most all of them but the top rankings were given to the
    Ultima's and the TeleVues.

    For what its worth.

    jon

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    Default Meade Series 4000 Super Plossls VS. TeleVue Plossl..??

    rmollise@aol.com (Rod Mollise) wrote in message news:<20031116181501.28603.00000334@mb-m14.aol.com>...

    I'll second Rod's opinion on that - the meade's are now just typical
    chinese plossls. Certainly not as good as the TV's or the Ultimas.

    Tom T.

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    Default Meade Series 4000 Super Plossls VS. TeleVue Plossl..??

    While I love Sky and Telescope, I have to take their product comparisons of
    two of their biggest advertisers with a grain of salt. Informative, but
    never definitive. The info on this and other newsgroups is much more
    objective in that regard. In other words, you'll never see Sky and Telescope
    publish a statement like:

    prefer the TV. I think the TV Plossls are one of the best values in
    astronomy hardware.<

    --Eric



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    Default Meade Series 4000 Super Plossls VS. TeleVue Plossl..??

    >While I love Sky and Telescope, I have to take their product comparisons of


    Actually if you can get a copy of the Sky and Telescope eyepiece test from
    April 1996, you will find they made some statements very much like that. They
    said that most all the Plossl eyepieces were decent but that the TV's and
    Celestron Ultimas were noticeably better. And that test included the Meade
    4000's series.

    So, while I agree with you one needs to be cautious, at times they do some
    serious work.

    jon

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    Default Meade Series 4000 Super Plossls VS. TeleVue Plossl..??

    Rod, I agree.
    The original "Super Plossls" (5 elements) were made by Carton in Japan, as were
    the Televues. The SP were great and second to none. About a year later, the 5
    element went to a Japanese 4 element traditional Plossls design with little
    fanfare, but kept the SP logo. About 5 years later the factory was changed to
    Taiwan, staying at 4 elements. Then around 2000, the manufacturer was changed to
    China. IMHO, although still a nice eyepiece, each time the origin/ design changed,
    the SP series became a less of a premium ocular. The original 5 element were as
    good as the Ultimas and Televues. The new SP's sometimes did not compete with
    the Series 3000, made in Japan the were recently discontinued.

    I think it is a tribute to Televue and Celestron that they did not cheapen their
    designs.
    But as for a Bargain, the Meade SPs at the current 7/$99 = $14.14 each, are a
    great value.

    Gary Hand



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    Default Meade Series 4000 Super Plossls VS. TeleVue Plossl..??


    "Gary Hand" <gary.s.hand@verizon.net> wrote in message
    news:3FBA8F0E.8631B002@verizon.net...
    were
    the 5
    little
    changed to
    changed to
    changed,
    were as
    with
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    are a

    So are the Ultimas and Televues 5 or 4 element design and is it the design
    that makes the most difference or the
    maker and coatings used?

    Victor Hall



 

 
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