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    Default My new 6mm Expanse eyepiece



    I posted a response to a thread last week and stated that I had ordered a
    6mm Expanse EP along with a #25 Neutral Density Filter from Orion. I placed
    the order online around 1:30 a.m. on September 16th. Boy was I excited.

    Friday morning before I went to bed (remember, I am a day sleeper) I left a
    note on the front door to FedX requesting them not to knock but to just
    leave the package at the bottom of the door. I woke up that afternoon to
    find nothing there. "Oh, well," I said to myself, "It will be here Monday."
    I knew they did not deliver on Saturday.

    Monday morning found me especially excited as I turned in for a few hours
    sleep. I have Monday and Tuesday night off. There would be no moon in the
    night sky. The Clear Sky Clock presented unending dark blue squares. My
    new EP and filter would greet me upon my awakening.

    Wrong again. The note I had placed back on the door was still untouched and
    the bottom of the door lay bare. "What the heck is going on?" I muttered my
    dog "Sam". . . a constant and loving companion. Circumstances dictated it
    was time for a little cyberspace sleuthing.

    A response from Orion gave me the FedX tracking number on the small parcel.
    A visit to FedEx.com gave me a surprise. They do not deliver to homes on
    Monday. Further investivation revealed an even bigger shocker. Entering
    the package tracking number gave me a response claiming an attempt was made
    to deliver the package on the previous Friday, but my address was incorrect.
    Wrong. The address was correct.

    I called FedX where a representative informed me what the website already
    had. . .my address was incorrect. Then she told me a contradictory thing.
    She stated that another attempt to deliver would be made on Tuesday. "To
    the same incorrect address?" I thought to myself. That was yesterday. At
    least it would still be a good night for observing with my new eyepiece.

    Early Tuesday morning I positioned my easy chair and laptop in such a manner
    that my mailbox and driveway were in view. A large picture window on an
    adjacent wall revealed a side street. Around 11:00 a.m. a FedX truck came
    into view on that street. Around 1:00 p.m. I had given up on the truck
    appearing in my driveway. I phoned the FedX rep again. This time she told
    me that the address was correct (I knew this all along) and that the driver
    had found my mailbox but could not locate my house. I believe this was an
    out-and-out lie. My house is directly across the street from my mailbox and
    the house number is on clearly in view on the side of my home.

    "Where is the package now?," I asked. "I'm not sure," she replied. .
    .."Would you like for me to run a formal trace on it?"

    "And then what, wait another week for an answer?," I responded. "I could
    have walked to California, picked it up at Orion, and walked it back home in
    all this time," I angrily asserted. "Do you have the package there right
    now?," my tone demanding a stop to the red tape being wrapped more tightly
    around my parcel with every passing moment. "Let me put you on hold and
    I'll look," the representative retorted with a defeated sound to her voice.

    "Mr. Howell, are you still holding?" she asked as she returned to the phone.
    To me, this is as stupid of a question as "Are you asleep?"

    "Yes," I answered.

    "I have your package right here in front of me now. Would you like for us
    to try to deliver it again tomorrow?" I will not reveal my response to that
    question in the event small and impressionable children are lurking in this
    newsgroup.

    "Where are you located?," I asked after I calmed down. "We're in
    Burlington," she replied. "Give me directions to your facility and I'll
    come pick up the package myself right now," I said.

    She did and I jumped in my car and drove the 43 miles to Burlington,
    Washington. Then I drove the 43 miles back to Lake Stevens, Washington.
    The nightmare was over. I had my package.

    Nightfall came as it always does. I was ready. The scope was cooled. . .I
    had set it up outside with its fan running several hours ahead of my planned
    observation session. First light for the 6mm Expanse would be Messier 31.
    The view was nothing short of incredible. A huge chunk of the galaxy was
    revealed by the eyepiece's 66 degree apparent FOV with a magnification of
    254x through my 12.5 inch dobsonian. Contrast was superb. Stars were nice
    and sharp all the way to the edges.

    NGC7678 was next. This 11.8 magnitude galaxy has a surface brightness of
    13.10, yet was fairly easy pickings for the Expanse eyepiece. . .and this
    with the no better than the night's 5.0 NELM.

    Then it was time for a real test; it was time for Stephan's Quintet. More
    satisfying results awaited. My sketch of that domain shows averted vision
    revealed three of its members.

    I went to bed around 3:00 a.m. this morning with the feeling that I had made
    one of the best astronomy equipment purchases of my 40 years in this hobby.
    The bad taste of the FedX experience was more than completely replaced by
    the good taste of this wonderful eyepiece. If you don't have one, it is
    certainly worth considering as an addition to your accessory case. . .and if
    you're lucky you will not have to wait a week and drive more than 40 miles
    to get it.


    Martin











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    Default My new 6mm Expanse eyepiece

    On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:27:52 GMT, "Starstuffed" <martinhowell@yahoo.com> ...reflected:

    <snip>

    Don'tcha know, FreddyX only works well here in
    and about the Memphis area.

    Then again, your drivers are local folks, eh what?

    8^)

    I recently ordered an 11mm TeleVue Plossl.
    Criminy!...only 6mm of eye relief! I promptly sent
    that sucker back, as it was seemingly worse
    than my 4mm UO orthoscopic!

    I need to concentrate on mid-to-low power oculars.

    Alan

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    Default My new 6mm Expanse eyepiece


    Alan wrote:

    snip>>
    I recently ordered an 11mm TeleVue Plossl.
    Criminy!...only 6mm of eye relief! I promptly sent
    that sucker back, as it was seemingly worse
    than my 4mm UO orthoscopic!
    <<unsnip

    These Expanse eyepieces offer from 13mm to 17mm of eye relief and come in a
    6mm, 9mm, 15mm, or 20mm size at only $49.95 each. The whole set can be had
    for $169.00. Take a look at www.telescope.com.

    Martin



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    Default My new 6mm Expanse eyepiece

    I have had NOTHING but similar trouble with Fedex. I wish Orion would offer
    an alternate shipper. When I ordered my telescope (8" reflector) Fedex left
    it at a small grocery store in town because our gate was locked---I didn't
    expect it next day, left gate open day after! After waiting 5 days I called
    Orion who called Fedex who told me it was at the market. We literally had
    to remove cases of canned goods to get the box out from under in the store's
    back room. Fedex never left a notice so I didn't know it was there!

    I sell on Ebay and I had a guy want to order a bunch of stuff directly from
    me. He works for Fedex---a big shot---and said he would order weekly, and a
    sizeable order, and he would just send shipping tags so I wouldn't have to
    pay or do any work with the shipping. I told him I'd rather not do business
    if I had to use Fedex! They'd find a way to screw it up. Boy was he
    peeved. Oh well, it's not worth the grief I know would follow...

    Come on Orion, give us a UPS or USPS option!

    Doink


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    Default My new 6mm Expanse eyepiece

    >

    Interesting. I have nothing but good service from FedEx and routinely bad
    service from UPS.

    A while back I had a couple of entry level Meade scopes that needed to go back
    to the factory. Meade ships UPS and both scopes were delivered to the Scope
    City store near my home rather than to the correct address. At work, UPS tends
    to deliver to shipping and receiving whereas FedEx always delivers directly to
    my office.

    Thats how it works for me.

    jon

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    Default My new 6mm Expanse eyepiece

    On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:27:52 GMT, "Starstuffed"
    <martinhowell@yahoo.com> wrote:


    Do you have the sketch on-line? Neither a friend or myself are sure we
    saw any member of the Quintet. And we were under clear skies
    approaching mag 6. And you saw it under mag 5 skies?? I have a 12.5"
    f/5 newt.


    Order the same EP in the Ultrawide series from scopestuff.com and it
    is delivered via US Priority Mail for $10 less with no additional
    shipping costs to CONUS.

    ---
    Michael McCulloch

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    Default My new 6mm Expanse eyepiece

    I order frequently from Orion and they ship to my PO box via USPS Priority
    Mail. Just tell them to mail it to you, forget FedEx..

    If I place an order with them over the weekend, it is shipped on Monday and
    arrives in my PO box on Wednesday or Thursday. They will use Priority Mail
    to PO boxes or to residence addresses.

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    Joe S.

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    Default My new 6mm Expanse eyepiece

    I got the whole set from Scope Stuff. I can rarely get good enough skies to
    make the 6mm worth much. However, overall I'm pretty pleased with them. I
    have a 9mm Televue Radian, and I actually tend to prefer to use the Expanse.
    It's darker, but I like the wider field of view. I think the Expanse
    eyepieces are a real bargain.


    "Michael McCulloch" <michaelm@nospam.invalid.net> wrote in message
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    "Sherry Katz" <slkatz@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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    Expanse.

    Thanks for the comment that you find the Expanse "darker." I have an 18mm
    Meade SuperWide that I really enjoy. I just purchased a 6mm Expanse. For
    lack of anything better to do, I used the 18mm SWA and a 3X Barlow and
    swapped this combo with the 6mm Expanse. I swapped between the two on
    several objects and I thought the 6mm was a bit darker than the Barlowed
    18mm.


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    I definitely find all the Expanse eyepieces to be darker and I agree they
    are not that sharp off the center of the field. Keep in mind I am comparing
    $30 eyepieces to $300 eyepieces. For what they are I think the Expanse are
    a very good buy and fun to try. I have got a few cheap eyepieces that are
    just plain junk that I can't stand to use. The Expanse are fun, but the
    loss of light and sharpness is an issue - for some I think they would be
    unsatisfactory. However, I think many people would find them enjoyable to
    use and a good introduction to the good points of a wide angle eyepiece.


    "Joe S." <maxleonard@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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